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Originally posted by Kidicious
How do you fraudulently represent yourself as a member of your ethnicity?
How do you fraudulently represent yourself as a member of your ethnicity?
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By claiming to speask "as a native american" when you're not one."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber -
How do they know he's not one?Originally posted by lord of the mark
By claiming to speask "as a native american" when you're not one.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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"Suzan Shown Harjo, a columnist for ICT who has tracked Churchill's career, said that aside from the in-laws of his late Indian wife, he has not been able to produce any relatives from any Indian tribe."Originally posted by Kidicious
How do they know he's not one?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Im quite aware there is a dispute about whether whats happening in Darfur is technically genocide or just ethnic cleansing. In my postings ABOUT Darfur I was concerned with taking action, not the technical definition. In my post to this thread, i listed Armenia, Rwanda, Cambodia and Kurdistan, which are indisputably genocides.
No one serious holds that '48 was a genocide. Even historians hostile to Israel have attempted only to make the case for instances of ethnic cleansing.
By the way, you dont know what info I have or dont have, or what ive studied or havent, or what any other individuals, arabs, un officials, etc have or dont have. Or whether said individuals are telling the truth. I suggest you argue with facts, not to appeals to people you claim to know more.
I'd say the Palestininians know a lot more about it than you, bubelah.
However, in the interests of fairness I will not comment further on Israel until I have studied it's history. 50 odd years - I've got a couple of days next week.
Of course, also in the history of fairness, I will ignore any works which fail to list atrocities committed against British squaddies before the State of Israel ever existed.
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So what?Originally posted by lord of the mark
"Suzan Shown Harjo, a columnist for ICT who has tracked Churchill's career, said that aside from the in-laws of his late Indian wife, he has not been able to produce any relatives from any Indian tribe."I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Cruddy
I'd say the Palestininians know a lot more about it than you, bubelah.
LOTM Wow, you know a yiddish word. Im like, so impressed
However, in the interests of fairness I will not comment further on Israel until I have studied it's history. 50 odd years - I've got a couple of days next week.
Of course, also in the history of fairness, I will ignore any works which fail to list atrocities committed against British squaddies before the State of Israel ever existed.
Is that whats bugging you? Any good historian who covers '45 to '48 will of course also cover Irgun attacks on the Brits, as well as Brit actions. And the enmity between the Irgun and the mainstream Zionist leadership. And the haganah destroying a ship carrying arms to the Irgun - the destruction on Ben Gurions orders. None of which has anything to do with any alleged genocide against the Palestinians. Good luck in your reading, though, hope you were serious in the above comment."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Because.Originally posted by Kidicious
So what?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Sure is easy to prove some things to you.Originally posted by lord of the mark
Because.
Myself I think it's in poor taste to ask someone to prove their ethnicity, and it really serves no purpose. If someone asked me to prove my ethnicity I'd tell them where to stick it.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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In general id agree, but when they attempt to gain credibility by citing their ethnicity, it seems fair to ask them for proof.Originally posted by Kidicious
Sure is easy to prove some things to you.
Myself I think it's in poor taste to ask someone to prove their ethnicity, and it really serves no purpose. If someone asked me to prove my ethnicity I'd tell them where to stick it."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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I disagree. He doesn't pretend to speak for any tribe, only the ethnic group. Anyway I think it's really crap to assume that people can't speak for an ethnic group other than there own. It helps if you are of a certain group, but not manditory. If his wife was Native American, I think that's good qualifications.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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There is a difference between speaking on behalf of some group vs. speaking as a member of the group.
Churchill has consistently passed himself off as a member of the group to legitamize his positions and to give empathy and credence to the various injuries he 'personally' felt enacted on his tribe.
Bye the bye LotM, I beat you to the discreditting of Churchill as a native American in good standing a number of pages ago.
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You did?Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Bye the bye LotM, I beat you to the discreditting of Churchill as a native American in good standing a number of pages ago.
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He did.
I'm not what you'd normally consider a particularly nationalistic person, but I know I'd be bugged if someone whose only claim to swedishness was having been married to a Swede were to present him- or herself as "a member of the group".
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I prefer instead to remain consistant and and say "If these are what our current culture and economic system are built on, and I think it is wrong, then it is my duty to help destroy that system"
Even if one thought that destroying the system could only make matters worse? There's quite a few things that I think are wrong with the good ol' Capitalist World Order, but I'm not seeing any reason to believe that destroying it would allow something better to take its place.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
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I guess he did. Wish I'd known that 15 years ago. Woulda called him on it when he *****ed me out in from of an audience.Originally posted by Last Conformist
He did.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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