Scalia commends foolish Christians

[Ben Kenobi]

The wise wouldn't give a damn what Christians believed if they just minded their own business and didn't have this habit of turning their immoral "religious" beliefs into laws for the rest of us to obey.

So if all Christians kept their faith in the closet, everything would go smoothly?

I saw a UFO and I have nothing to gain, therefore believe me in the name of rationality.

Given the absence of further evidence, one would have to accept the testimony of the eyewitness that she saw something. Just because it's a UFO, doesn't make it full of aliens.

[Berzerker]

Ben -

So if all Christians kept their faith in the closet, everything would go smoothly?

Out of my house and my life will do... Is there leeway between this closet y'all hang out in and hiring mercernaries with our money to order us around in the name of Jeee-SuSsss?

Given the absence of further evidence, one would have to accept the testimony of the eyewitness that she saw something. Just because it's a UFO, doesn't make it full of aliens.

Is it full of God?

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

As for it being foolish, no more foolish than believing Mary to be a virgin.

Of course, because undocumented virgin births happen all the time.


Then again, I have no reason for not considering Mary Tyler Moore or Mary J. Blige virgins, because I've never taken a great interest in their private lives.


Or do you mean contrary Mary with the garden?

[Uncle Sparky]

Popes aren't fallible, and haven't been for quite a while. That's why JPII cannot step down - you can't have 2 infallible people at the same time.

... anyway, its time for liberals in the US to have an armed insurrection of their own... The world awaits.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Uncle Sparky
Popes aren't fallible, and haven't been for quite a while. That's why JPII cannot step down - you can't have 2 infallible people at the same time.

Only a little over 100 years.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
He's speaking to the Knights, Boris. He specifically says that Catholics ought to follow the pope, because they believe certain things about the authority invested in him by Christ.

And that belief is foolish, especially since it has no grounds in scripture.

"Follow religiously"

I don't think Scalia here means what you are taking this to mean. Does it mean to follow his instructions without question?

When people talk about following something "religiously," it is usually meant with complete, unquestioning devotion. That's certainly the context when referring to religious devotion to god.

As Uncle Sparky pointed out, official Catholic doctrine is that the pope is infallible. So it makes no sense for Scalia to be urging Catholics to be follow the pope "religiously" yet believing they can consider him fallible. If you adhere "religiously" to the doctrine of Catholicism, you must believe the pope is infallible.

As for it being foolish, no more foolish than believing Mary to be a virgin.

Well, I certainly think that's foolish.

But you're wrong, it's a specious comparison. Believing that Mary is a virgin doesn't impact one's own moral behavior. Believing the pope is infallible means one has to follow his edicts, which concern proper moral behavior. That's a big difference.

A much better question would be to ask whether Christians as a whole ought to follow the pope, and not just Catholics.

If it's alright for Christians as a whole not to follow the pope, then any argument for the infallibility of the pope is rendered null and void. Either the pope is the infallible "vicar of Christ" or he isn't. If he is, not following him is wrong.

[Provost Harrison]

Re: Re: Re: Scalia commends foolish Christians

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Spoken like someone who doesn't know anything of the opinions the man has written over the years.

So enlighten us then...

[Sava]

we've been doing this for too long

[Ben Kenobi]

Oh wow - this is just before my conversion! It reads like yesterday.

[SlowwHand]

I don't know if Sava missed his meds or doubled up on them.

[Sava]

also lolz

Scalia, a member of the Supreme Court since 1986, is considered a potential replacement for chief justice William Rehnquist when he retires the bench.

in his ****ing dreams

cranky ****ing troll bastard
disgrace to the court also

[Sava]

I don't know if Sava missed his meds or doubled up on them.

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AND GOOGLE DONT TELL ME HOW TO ****ING SPELL YOSESEMET SAM

****ING ASSCLOWN

[Dinner]

And here I was hoping some old posters like Drosedar, Aggie, Urban Ranger, and St Leo came back.

[Sava]

ur took over in nk when his daddy died
he aint got time for this