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  • Originally posted by Ned

    Also, how would one classify Gladiator?
    As a poor remake of Spartacus?

    Seriously, No one mentioned any Civil War genre movies?

    I would add;

    Gettysburg (Killer Angels)

    and

    Glory

    to the lists.
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    • Originally posted by Ted Striker
      The Patriot is pretty bad, though entertaining

      I think the cheeziest part is when Mel Gibson charges a horse during a full frontal assualt using the American flag as a spear.
      The Patriot is a great movie!
      'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
      G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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      • Originally posted by Ned
        Favorite war films:


        Also, how would one classify Gladiator?
        Cheesey, but with some fun bits.
        We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
        If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
        Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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        • I saw a Japanese movie from the 50's or 60's concerning a Japanese unit in Burma during WWII. I saw it on TV, but not from the beginning of the film. I don't even know the name of the film. But what I do recall is that the film was very, very good.

          If anyone here knows of the film, I would rent it in a heartbeat to see it again.
          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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          • Not sure if this was mentioned here before:

            Has anyone seen that new French movie "Un long dimanche de fiançailles/ A very long engagement"? IIUC it is part love movie/part WWI epic? Opinions about it?

            It just started here in Germany and I haven't watched it yet....
            Blah

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            • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


              As a poor remake of Spartacus?
              As a poor successor to 'Spartacus' and the superior 'Fall of the Roman Empire'. Alec Guinness is a much better Marcus Aurelius than Richard Harris, and the mustering of Rome's allies and forces at the beginning displays a keen eye for spectacle.

              What irks most about 'Gladiator' for me is the entirely unnecessary schlock Hollywood ending. Utterly irritating, and weaker by far than either the ending of 'Spartacus' (which I still find convincing and moving) or the cynicism of the end of 'The Fall of the Roman Empire' where the position of Emperor is up for grabs to the highest bidder.

              I did like the arena scenes, and I did like the dream sequences/prophetic visions in 'Gladiator' but the cityscpae of Rome just liked like some multi-storey grey 20th Century brutalist landscape. The Romans knew how to dye and colour concrete, fer crissakes, and painted and gilded statuary. They didn't live in some bleak cheap Mies van der Rohe knock-off....
              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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              • Originally posted by BeBro
                Not sure if this was mentioned here before:

                Has anyone seen that new French movie "Un long dimanche de fiançailles/ A very long engagement"? IIUC it is part love movie/part WWI epic? Opinions about it?

                It just started here in Germany and I haven't watched it yet....
                I would say this film is part propaganda and part romance. The propaganda film is all about how the French officer corps is corrupt and wantonly cruel to the enlisted soldiers. The romance is uneven. I especially liked the story involving Jodie Foster's character however.
                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                • Originally posted by molly bloom


                  As a poor successor to 'Spartacus' and the superior 'Fall of the Roman Empire'. Alec Guinness is a much better Marcus Aurelius than Richard Harris, and the mustering of Rome's allies and forces at the beginning displays a keen eye for spectacle.

                  What irks most about 'Gladiator' for me is the entirely unnecessary schlock Hollywood ending. Utterly irritating, and weaker by far than either the ending of 'Spartacus' (which I still find convincing and moving) or the cynicism of the end of 'The Fall of the Roman Empire' where the position of Emperor is up for grabs to the highest bidder.

                  I did like the arena scenes, and I did like the dream sequences/prophetic visions in 'Gladiator' but the cityscpae of Rome just liked like some multi-storey grey 20th Century brutalist landscape. The Romans knew how to dye and colour concrete, fer crissakes, and painted and gilded statuary. They didn't live in some bleak cheap Mies van der Rohe knock-off....
                  Perhaps the vision of ancient Rome was wrong, but it was extremely impressive regardless. The recreation of the Colliseum was impressive. Also the scene where Commodus rides his chariot past the assembled cohorts to the steps of his palace was very impressive. (I did a rough count of the number of troops shown in the scene. I figured it to be 30,000.) When I saw it, I had flashes of the Nazi assembly at Nuremberg where Hitler marches down between the assembled German Army. Either the movie was inspired by Nuremberg or Hitler (Speer) was inspired by Rome. Regardless, such displays of military might are very effective.
                  http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                  • Gladiator
                    THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                    AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                    AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                    DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                    • Also:

                      Master & Commander
                      Enemy at the Gates
                      The Thin Red Line
                      THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                      AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                      AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                      DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                      • Winners

                        Zulu
                        Zulu Dawn
                        Lost Battalion
                        Big Red One
                        A bridge to Far
                        Pork Chop Hill
                        U-571
                        The eagle has landed
                        Glory
                        Gettysberg

                        LOSERS

                        The bridges at Toka- Ri (sp)
                        Gods and Generals
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                        • Originally posted by The diplomat


                          The Patriot is a great movie!
                          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                          "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                          • Who is going to see Clint Eastwood's

                            "Letters from Iwo Jima"
                            anti steam and proud of it

                            CDO ....its OCD in alpha order like it should be

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                            • Football Factory
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                              • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                                Gettysburg (Killer Angels)
                                Oh, that was simply awful. Great book but a terrible, terrible movie.
                                Catch-22 is another great book Hollywood screwed up.


                                Great movies no one has mentioned:

                                The Beast -- Afghanis vs. a Soviet tank.
                                Sink the Bismarck
                                Casualties of War

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