Why the American media are so pathologically anti-Russian

[Heresson]

Originally posted by The Vagabond


The nice and p*ssy East Europeans still gloating over Moscow burning four centuries ago. That was certainly the climax of your petty history.

It was a forgotten part of our history until Russia itself recalled it.

Also, I'd like to inform You that only thanks to a Polish euro-parliamentarist, Soviet war prisoners were mentioned in EU's statesment memorating Auschwitz liberation.

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by The Vagabond


The nice and p*ssy East Europeans still gloating over Moscow burning four centuries ago. That was certainly the climax of your petty history.

Why do you hate "East Europeans"?

[Saras]

'cause they can't resist our trolls

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by DaShi
Where's Serb when you need him?

Refighting World War II.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by The Vagabond


No figures. Just a naked-eye impression.

FWIW, I've got the opposite impression.

And as for the 'Christian' part, here too we are more Christian than the West, which practices a strange and utterly wrong version of Christianity.

Well, I live in the probably least Christian Western country. Your faith isn't scoring any points with us.

[Serb]

Originally posted by DaShi
Where's Serb when you need him?

Here I am.

[Serb]

Originally posted by molly bloom


Refighting World War II.

Not yet unfortunately. I hope to recieve my copy of HOI2 within next week.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by Heresson

It was a forgotten part of our history until Russia itself recalled it.

Why should it be forgotten? For Russia, that was the culmination of a prolonged period of turmoil, the so called "time of troubles". Never in its history was Russia so close to a total collapse as in 1612, (perhaps, with the exception of 1941-1942). It is remarkable that it was people's army that liberated Moscow from the Poles and thus ended the time of troubles. It is remarkable as well that the Muslims of Russia also massively volunteered into that army. So it's a good occasion for a national holiday.

Also, I'd like to inform You that only thanks to a Polish euro-parliamentarist, Soviet war prisoners were mentioned in EU's statesment memorating Auschwitz liberation.

Thanks.

On the other hand, many of the distinguished speakers in Krakow even failed to mention which army liberated it.

[The Vagabond]

Serb is here!!!

[Serb]

to two representatives of Rech Pospolita:
You guys suck, both of you. Still proud that you were able to burn Moscow centuries ago. Yeah, burining of cities is the great achievement, it's so civilized, so western. Pathetic suckers from pathetic countries with pathetic history.

Have a nice day, you pyromaniacs of Europe.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by BeBro


Why do you hate "East Europeans"?

Just because they hate us so much.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

FWIW, I've got the opposite impression.

Well, if you live in Sweden, maybe.

Well, I live in the probably least Christian Western country. Your faith isn't scoring any points with us.

What country could that possibly be?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Heresson
Summary: how dare anyone to criticise us?
(and it's all because of Poland)

Aren't you suppose to be somewhere in the ME looking for Osama to convert him into Chrisitan?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Because, what, Russia isn't European?

There's that little Siberia thing, which doesn't exactl correspond to the idea of Europe over here.

Bullsh!t. Siberia is in Europe.
If otherwise, how the hell can you explain the fact, that a hockey club from Omsk city which is located in the middle of Siberia is the winner of European Champions Cup 2005 tournament?

[Heresson]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
Serb is here!!!

Originally posted by Serb
Aren't you suppose to be somewhere in the ME looking for Osama to convert him into Chrisitan?

Nah, already done.

Originally posted by Serb
to two representatives of Rech Pospolita:
You guys suck, both of you. Still proud that you were able to burn Moscow centuries ago. Yeah, burining of cities is the great achievement, it's so civilized, so western. Pathetic suckers from pathetic countries with pathetic history.
Have a nice day, you pyromaniacs of Europe.

Who's said I'm proud of it? And Saras was just trolling...

Originally posted by The Vagabond
Just because they hate us so much.

I don't hate Russian. I hate some bad aspects of Russian tradition, though... Imperialism for instance.
Take some Serb's claims... Like that Stalin was great,
Soviet Union was perfectly right to inva... sorry, take care of Lvov and Vilnius in 1939, and Poland is repsonsible for both Muenchen and ww2...
And still, You're cheering at his welcome.

Originally posted by The Vagabond
Why should it be forgotten?

Because in Poland, under communism, it was not well seen to remind any hostility between our two nations?

It is remarkable as well that the Muslims of Russia also massively volunteered into that army. So it's a good occasion for a national holiday.

Russia was not even near to collapse back then.
Poland didn't want to destroy Russia - have an union with it perhaps, at least force it being allied with itself against Sweden, liberate Smolensk - all that yes, but not destroy Russian state as such.

On the other hand, many of the distinguished speakers in Krakow even failed to mention which army liberated it.

If there'll be ceremonies in Katyn forest,
do You expect Polish or Russian president to thank nazi Germany for revealing this case?
Soviet regime was at that time evil itself, though not as much as III Reich perhaps. When Auschwitz was being liberated, thousands were dieing in Soviet camps. And Soviet soldiers were not only liberators from nazi rule - for which they should be thanked - but also conquerors.
Having all that said I don't agree with lack of mentioning of USSR's role. As far as I'm concerned, obviously they should've mentioned who's liberated Auschwitz, invite combatants who did that (if there are any still alive - but surely there are, and it's an outrage if they were not summoned), and all that usual stuff.