Why the American media are so pathologically anti-Russian

[Serb]

Saras,
1. I don't speak Lithuanian
2. I'm tired of this crap
3. I have no time for this anymore
4. Have a nice day.
5. I'm out.

[Saras]

Originally posted by Serb
Saras,
1. I don't speak Lithuanian
2. I'm tired of this crap
3. I have no time for this anymore
4. Have a nice day.
5. I'm out.

Hey relax with this:

Франция, XIXв.

- Ах, Пьер, вы даже не представляете себе, какое вы сокровище берете, - говорит женщина будущему зятю. - По вечерам не выходит, девственнее ангела, да простит мне Господь, книги да молитвы единственное развлечение. А ее комната скромнее монашеской кельи, пойдемте заглянем.

Входят они в комнату и видят: стол, стул, кровать да больше ничего.

Единственная экзотика - это клетка с попугаем.

Попугай, увидев гостей, сразу встрепенулся и как прокричит:

- ... Тр-ррр-ахай потише!!! Маман не спит!!!...

Пьер в шоке, мама в обморок падает, а попугай:

- ... В жж-о-оопу, козел!!!! Мне еще замуж выходить!...

[chequita guevara]

Re: Why the American media are so pathologically anti-Russian

Cuz Russia sux.

[Saras]

Hey stranger what did you do to che???

[lord of the mark]

Russian Newspaper Issues Wry Retraction
Edition Is a Protest Against Court Ruling

By Peter Finn
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, February 1, 2005; Page A14

MOSCOW, Jan. 31 -- The Russian business daily Kommersant published an edition Monday that was blank except for a court-ordered retraction -- published upside down -- and other items related to an $11.4 million judgment against the publication.

The edition was a satirical protest against a legal finding that the newspaper had erred last summer when it suggested in an article that Moscow-based Alfa Bank was in financial trouble. The Monday edition also included the text of the court's ruling and a photo of the bank's principal shareholder, Mikhail Fridman, shaking hands with President Vladimir Putin.


"This is already having an impact on the press in Russia," said Andrei Vasilyev, the newspaper's editor in chief. "For many other newspapers this kind of sum would have put them out of business. Russian law does not recommend this kind of severe verdict."

An appeals court ruled last month that the newspaper, which is owned by the exiled tycoon Boris Berezovsky, a political enemy of Putin's, had damaged the bank's reputation.

Alfa Bank argued successfully that the July 7 article was false and led to a $210 million run on deposits last summer by frightened account holders, some of whom never reopened their accounts.

"This issue is devoted entirely to Alfa Bank and Mikhail Maratovich Fridman, so that they're happy," the paper said in a brief commentary on its largely white front page under a headline that rhymed with a Russian swearword. "We apologize to the other readers of the paper and assure them that the next issue of the paper will come out in the normal format. Even if the private individual . . . and legal entity mentioned above are not happy about this."

Five of the newspaper's eight pages were completely blank except for the date and section headers.

Vasilyev said other newspapers ran similar articles last July about Alfa Bank that were submitted to the court as part of the newspaper's defense. He said the court ignored those submissions, but he declined to characterize the verdict as political.

Kommersant, which transferred the $11.4 million to court bailiffs last week after losing its first appeal, plans a further appeal, according to the newspaper's attorneys. They said the judgment amounted to 70 percent of the newspaper's assets and that the company had been forced to get a loan from another bank to pay it.

In a statement, Alfa Bank said if the decision continued to be upheld, it intended to donate all of the money to charity, including foundations for freedom of speech and organizations that support the families of journalists killed while reporting.

"Alfa Bank is confident that such a highly reputed publisher as Kommersant will take into consideration this experience and that steps will be taken to see that mistakes such as this are not repeated in the future," the bank said.

The newspaper argued that the case was a test of the country's commitment to a free press. After the original judgment in October, the Paris-based World Association of Newspapers and World Editors Forum protested to the Russian authorities.

"We would like to draw your attention to the belief widely held among the global press that the award of such massive damages, which are almost 10 times higher than any sum previously awarded, might appear to be politically motivated and intended to intimidate critical media," the organizations wrote in a letter to Russia's High Arbitration Court

[Saras]

loth, inciting baseless runs on deposits is hardly free speech, you have to admit that.

[Dinner]

That paper got what it deserved for starting a bank run. Papers need to be reasonably sure of things before they print it but the Russian government does seem to have a habit of enforcing rules on political enemies and ignoring the rules for most other people.

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Serb

Like 5% or something.

No, like 75% in entire Cieszyn region, more in the part Poland's taken. Polish majority was even visible on Czech maps.

Right, because both of them are US whores and this was the part of prapaganda campaign to destroy the USSR.

Do You think it was done intentionally by Gorbaczow?
And c-mon, listen to yourself...

[Saras]

ALL HAIL TEH LORD GOD!

Russia bars foreign-owned firms from key assets
>By Arkady Ostrovsky in Moscow and Kevin Morrison in London
>Published: February 10 2005 19:31 | Last updated: February 10 2005 19:31
>>
Russia will bar foreign-owned companies from bidding for the country's most lucrative natural resources this year in the most explicit and sweeping manifestation of a nationalistic state policy developed under the presidency of Vladimir Putin.

The Ministry for Natural Resources said companies would have to be at least 51 per cent Russian-owned to take part in this year's tenders for strategic oil and metals deposits. The rule may prevent oil companies such as ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco from developing new Russian oil reserves, and also stymie TNK-BP, a pioneering 50-50 owned Anglo-Russian oil company.

The ban is part of an increasingly clear trend by the Russian government to reassert control over strategic areas of the country's economy and keep foreigners out of the most lucrative assets. It comes days after Russian officials suggested that Siemens should not be allowed to buy Russia's engineering company Power Machines, which is also considered a strategic asset.

The Russian move comes after an extended period of high oil prices. This may signal that a 20-year stretch of oil surpluses has come to an end and that power in the energy markets has once again shifted back to those countries with large reserves. The tender list for this year's oil and gas projects includes Sakhalin 3, a giant offshore oil field in Russia's far east, which Exxon was hoping to develop as well as ready-to-produce onshore fields in the north of Russia with reserves of 250m tonnes of oil, which TNK-BP, Chevron and Total are believed to be interested in.

The exclusion also includes one of Russia's biggest gold deposits, which Fleming Family and Partners, in London, wanted to develop, and copper mines that interested Chinese companies. Analysts said that if new rules were applied to other fields in future years it could deal a heavy blow to BP, which paid $7.5bn for a 50 per cent stake of TNK-BP.

Steven O'Sullivan, head of research at United Financial Group, a Moscow investment bank, said: “When BP made its investment they must have factored in some upside from new lucrative fields. Now it looks like these fields could be put out of their reach.”

Analysts said the latest move is an extension of recent Kremlin policy and is likely to reduce investment opportunities in the country and hold back foreign capital.

Mr O'Sullivan said: “There are a lot of countries in the world such as Venezuela, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait that do not allow foreign oil companies to develop their reserves. Russia has always been somewhat unusual from this point of view.”

A person close to the Ministry of Natural Resources said the decision defended Russia's national interests. “Foreign companies often accumulate reserves simply to increase their market capitalisation, rather than developing them and as far as metals are concerned, we want them to be processed in Russia, rather than been taken out as ore.”

A person close to TNK-BP said the ban was regrettable.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by Saras
ALL HAIL TEH LORD GOD!

Russia bars foreign-owned firms from key assets

At last, Russian rulers are not shy to stand for the national interests. Actually, this is precisely one of the reasons for such a frenzied anti-Russian campaign in the Western media. "If you refuse to sell us the assets, you are not democratic enough".

Mr O'Sullivan said: “There are a lot of countries in the world such as Venezuela, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait that do not allow foreign oil companies to develop their reserves. Russia has always been somewhat unusual from this point of view.”

The Mexicans have been able to withstand the enormous American pressure for selling them the assets?? I start to respect them more.

A person close to TNK-BP said the ban was regrettable.

Of course, it is regrettable, to them.

[The Vagabond]

Re: Re: Why the American media are so pathologically anti-Russian

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Cuz Russia sux.

The lefties now hate Russia too, I know.

[lord of the mark]

congrats to the Lord god Putin on surviving his no confidence vote. At least it shows some independence is left in the Duma.

[Saras]

Originally posted by The Vagabond


At last, Russian rulers are not shy to stand for the national interests. Actually, this is precisely one of the reasons for such a frenzied anti-Russian campaign in the Western media. "If you refuse to sell us the assets, you are not democratic enough".

Have you ever wondered why Amercians dont give a flying rats pancreas who buys their 'strategic' assets? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER! What will happen now is - Putins buddies will buy the assets at lower prices than they would have been had they been sold in open and fair auctions. Sheesh, 'national interests' MY ARSE!

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by Saras
Have you ever wondered why Amercians dont give a flying rats pancreas who buys their 'strategic' assets? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER!

Yes, I have. First, I am not quite sure that Americans don't keep certain assets as strategic and unsellable, that they don't somehow control foreign purchases of their assets. You just bought into their propaganda, naive Lithuanian. Second, given the enormous number of their assets, any one of them can hardly be considered strategic. Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that a rival, non-Western entity will ever be able to buy out an essential chunk to make it strategic. In Russia, such a giant oil company as Yukos is responsible for up to 10% revenues of the federal budget. You see the difference? Can we entrust American companies, which were eager to buy Yukos, with the assets providing such a huge chunk of the budget. I am afraid not. Russia, as a country that can solely rely in itself for survival in a hostile environment (unlike e.g. Lithuania, which lives truly in 'greenhouse' conditions), is especially sensitive to such strategic vulnerabilities. Americans preach and follow it only as long as it is overall profitable to them. It works for them, so good for them. It all sounds nice and beautiful. But once and if it stops being beneficial, they won't hesitate to abandon these principles, just as they now relax certain human-right requirements in the face of the terrorist threat.

What will happen now is - Putins buddies will buy the assets at lower prices than they would have been had they been sold in open and fair auctions. Sheesh, 'national interests' MY ARSE!

So, you see, selling them cheaper now pays off in the long run in terms of strategic security. Don't you think that thinking about the future is more important than making a grab for big bucks right now?

[Saras]

You're even worse that those idiots that were against liberalisation of land sales to non-residents of Lithuania. Omfg, teh Russians will buy all of Lithuania and ENSLAVE US AGAIN!