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[foolish_icarus]

What would it take to create a Bishopric of Bohemia?

[Cyclotron]

A bishopric can only be established by papal edict. Because it grants much prestige and a certain amount of "civilization" to a nation or city, Kings and Dukes often petition the Pope to do this, meanwhile showing through their aid to the papacy or their good Christian deeds how deserving and meritorious they are. It helps if you are on good terms with the Pope.

Once a bishopric is created, it is usually filled by a Papal appointee, though the Pope may acquiesce to the wishes of the local secular authorities if they have someone suitable in mind.

Edit: And, technically, it would be the Bishopric of (insert major city here, probably Prague), not of Bohemia.

[foolish_icarus]

Goddamn Popes.

How much of a "gesture of Christian goodwill" are we looking at here...
To just get an audience?
To get a reasonable chance of Mr. Authority creating the bishopric?

forget it, I don't have the patience or the money to handfeed some illegitimate Roman toddler bribes and compliments. When German soldiers have hewn through the ranks of the barbarian rogues, then our friendly Duke Spytihnìv will know whom he should be swearing fealty to. In not more time than it takes our troops to pour the Magyar blood out of their boots the Bohemians will have reconsidered their position in this war, and they won't be needing any epilectic child hanging off of a whore's teat to tell them who God favors.

[appleciders]

Originally posted by foolish_icarus
Goddamn Popes.

How much of a "gesture of Christian goodwill" are we looking at here...
To just get an audience?
To get a reasonable chance of Mr. Authority creating the bishopric?

forget it, I don't have the patience or the money to handfeed some illegitimate Roman toddler bribes and compliments. When German soldiers have hewn through the ranks of the barbarian rogues, then our friendly Duke Spytihnìv will know whom he should be swearing fealty to. In not more time than it takes our troops to pour the Magyar blood out of their boots the Bohemians will have reconsidered their position in this war, and they won't be needing any epilectic child hanging off of a whore's teat to tell them who God favors.

Subtle. Very subtle. I almost didn't catch that you're annoyed here
Well, that's another 200 denarii I won't have to spend in bribes.

Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to Archbishop Hatto of Mainz
Does your authority pertain only to people born in Bavaria or only those currently in Bavaria? Because these men are most definately within your realm at the moment.

Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to Soldiers of the Bohemian Army
Good soldiers, do you really believe that the Magyars have your best interests at heart? These pagans want nothing more than to destroy the Catholic church, and by marching alongside them you are helping them do it. Return to your homes and refuse to further this unjust cause, or, better yet, come fight alongside fellow Christians against heathen opressors! If you fear the reprisal of Magyars after the battle, I offer each and every one of you a piece of land on my own estates that you may farm as one of my subjects. Please reconsider your devotion to a pagan cause.

[Cyclotron]

Archbishop Hatto of Mainz to Duke Arnulf of Bavaria
My Lord, you hust have me mistaken. I am the Archbishop of Mainz, in Franconia. I have as much jurisdiction over Bavaria as I do England - that is to say, none. Perhaps you mean to inquire with Archbishop Pilgrim of Salzburg?

Ducal Herald to Duke Arnulf of Bavaria
My Worthy and Most Sovereign Lord, we shall try our best to give your message to the soldiers of Bohemia, though it will be most difficult. Perhaps this - dare I say it - "propagandizing" would best be done by my Lord's more specialized agents, or perhaps those of my Lord's King.

[Cyclotron]

Goddamn Popes.

How much of a "gesture of Christian goodwill" are we looking at here...
To just get an audience?
To get a reasonable chance of Mr. Authority creating the bishopric?

I catch your annoyance here, though for future reference - i.e., when the Pope is a little less "worldly" - it usually only takes a personal visit from a King or Prince. He'll usually receive people of that station automatically, Dukes are too common for him to just let them in.

Of course, more may be requested by the Pope. It's really his call.

[appleciders]

Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to Archbishop Pilgrim of Salzburg
After much chasing around, I've been informed that you are the man I should be asking help of in this time of dire need. Please consider throwing the weight of the Church behind my campaign against the heathen Magyars and the treacherous Christian Bohemians by placing an interdict on the Magyar army and their allies in Northern Bavaria.

[foolish_icarus]

I'm fine, but Conrad, a fairly pious man, is a little piqued. Plus, it was a chance to say 'Goddamn Popes', which is an opportunity which should never be passed up

I just love reading about the history of this time period. Pornocracy

How much would it cost to hire a really good doctor and get him adequate supplies to take care of Kunigunde?

I'll be doing no more until I get back to school on Sunday.

[Cyclotron]

Archbishop Pilgrim of Salzburg to Duke Arnulf of Bavaria
Though I am uncertain of how much good this will do, I would be more than willing to pronounce an interdict.

Archbishop Pilgrim of Salzburg, a general pronouncement
In the Name of God most high, who punishes the wicked and rewards the virtuous in his infinite wisdom, I, Pilgrim I, Archbishop of Salzburg and Primate of the Allemanic Duchy of Bavaria, do place all those within the Duchy of Bavaria under censure and interdict who fight under the banner of or in alliance with the Magyars in Bohemia. Henceforth, let no priest of God deliver the sacraments to any who are subject to this interdict, under penalty of eternal damnation and excommunication, such that any who fall on the field in service of the heathen will do so without the blessings of the Holy Communion nor the absolution of their sins through Confession.
In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti,
Archiepiscopus Peregrinus

How much would it cost to hire a really good doctor and get him adequate supplies to take care of Kunigunde?

As King, you pretty much have this already, but "really good" in semi-barbaric Germany - where physicians educated in the Greek tradition seldom go - is not terribly good compared to, say, Italy, Greece, or the Islamic world. You can seek out foreign doctors if you believe it will help. It may not cost you anything, because other friendly Kings may be more than willing to loan you their personal doctors, but a French doctor may not be any better than a German one. Perhaps their expertise may be more valuable, but perhaps not. Your court doctors and priests will do the best they can, but at this point her survival may simply be up to chance.

Your best doctors cite the new Low German translation of the Anglo-Saxon Leechbook, pointing out that the illness is likely the cause of Kunigunde eating things too salty or sweet during the pregnancy, or perhaps it is just God's way of humbling you. As for the cure, they are trying many things, but seem stumped at the moment.

[Cyclotron]

I'll be out of action for a few days due to schoolwork. If his PM was any indication, bipolarbear should be showing up soon. Thus, I will attempt to delay the update until he shows up, assuming he shows up this week. I'd like to aim for a next-weekend update, though it could come sooner if all orders are in earlier.

I will also be putting up a board will all the active general descriptions in a few days. That should make things easier for everyone.

King Rudolph II of Burgundy to King Conrad of Germany
My fellow Christian monarch,
I am ready to render my aid to your stalwart soldiers should you require it. To this end, I have assembled a force that, while small, represents some of the best of my soldiery. I apologize that I cannot do more, as certain problems in France, Italy, and Provence require the attention of my generals and men. If you request it, I shall at once send:

100 Knights (heavy, lance, sword, shield)
300 Sergeants (light, lance, sword, shield)
500 Medium Swordsmen (light, sword, shield)
500 Medium Spearmen (light, spear, shield)
300 Italian Urban Guards (heavy, spear, shield)

My trusted commander and envoy, Count Odo de Neuchatel, will be available to command them. Unfortunately, it will take some time to reach you; I should think they would be able to reach Regensburg by early fall, though the actual time is unfortunately quite unpredictable. Whatever the events, I wish you godspeed and good fortune in your endeavors.

[appleciders]

Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to Duke Heinrich of Saxony
Will I be able to count on the stalwart Saxons in this campaign against the Magyars?

Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to Archbishop Pilgrim of Salzburg
My thanks for your support in these troubled times.


Cyc, does the Archbishop actually have leverage over these priests accompanying the Bohemian army? What are the chances of these priests actually following the interdict?

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by appleciders
Cyc, does the Archbishop actually have leverage over these priests accompanying the Bohemian army? What are the chances of these priests actually following the interdict?

Bohemian priests, if they are actually ethnically Bohemian (most would be), are probably more loyal to their people and leader than to some german Archbishop on whose territory they happen to be trotting on. Even if the clergy aren't fans of the Duke's new allies, they are probably going to do their duty to their lord, like any good vassal would.

[bipolarbear]

The Sultan of Swabia, Erwin "Freeman" Rommell, wishes to make his presence known. The Schwabians currently only seek peace and freedom for every man (Freeman's cornerstone). We found ourselves on strength through unity of a common idea and under a common man.

Currently we seek tade and allaince; aside from the obvious values of freedom, morality, low taxes, and lastly peace.

[appleciders]

Duke Arnulf of Bavaria to Duke "Freeman" of Swabia

You seek trade, do you? I have recently acquired a large salt mine, and I seek to trade as much as 200 denarii worth of salt for other goods your duchy may produce.

[bipolarbear]

"Freeman" Rommel of Swabia to the msot esteemed Duke Arnulf of Bavaria

of course I'm sure we can work something out.