SNESA 8: Ironclad

[gooberboob]

The Polish Invasion Army, in conjunction with the Greco-Russian invasion army has occupied All parts of Italy not held by the Communist party. The Polish airforce has been placed on well-protected carriers to head to the United States, bombing Runs will begin immediately upon arrival.

The Polish Navy captures the Panama Canal zone, and blocades American holdings in the Carribean. Communist groups in Latin America and Cuba are getting funds and outdated military surplus from Poland.

[gooberboob]

((Tacticus, I'm not saying you have to, but it would be cool if you were to become like a money-grubbing scoundrel type guy, and forge an economic empire.))

[GeneralTacticus]

OOC: That's precisely what I've been trying to do so far - witness my machinations over ME oil, for instance. I've just been a bit busy trying to deal with you.

[gooberboob]

((LOL Forge the empire in western Europe))

[GeneralTacticus]

OOC: Unfortunately, it'll have to wait until we can rebuild economically, and I doubt the US would be much inclined to send us any more aid.

[Easthaven I]

Russian troops remain in Germany.

You can negotiate with the Poles all you want but Poles are not the Russians. We were not included in these negotiations yet our armed forces were, this is deeply offensive. Russian troops shall remain as they are until we reach our decision about these proposed treaties.

Germany practically has the same conditions as they were practicing before the war, except now they won't be in NATO. We did not send Russian men to die in vain, for the squabbling of Poland and Germany. We will think over this, until then our troops remain.

To Poland(secret):
What was the point of this war? To merely spank Germany and leave? You called upon Russian men to fight and die for this? We came to this call because you are our ally, you showed complete contempt for this nation and screamed for war. And now nothing has been changed for the better, it is the same as before we entered Germany, except now dead men litter the ground. Was this only for your enjoyment of a simple rumble with your neighbor to show off your strength? What the hell was the point and the damn purpose. You called upon your friends to help you against the "evil ever-threatening" Germans yet now they have basicly the same conditions, room for rebuilding, only they recieved a licking. If this is all...then what am I to say to the Russian families whose men died in vain...I am beginning to feel regret and guilt. You better boost up your charm and diplomacy skills and give me something to chew on. Hopefully the Canadians will not be so soft on the Americans, and say "hey, good fight, Yank, shall we sit for tea now? And then we will return to our homes as if nothing occurred".

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Fresh Russian troops begin moving across the Bering Straits towards the Canadian-American Front.

[GeneralTacticus]

To USSR: Very well, what do you want for peace? You should note that you have achieved something - you have extracted a deal from us that will prevent us from threatening you again, you have weakened NATO, and you have placed a buffer in Europe between yourselves and the NATO powers. What more do you want?

[Jonny]

France-Diplomacy

France to the World: We officaly declare our neutrality in all current conflicts. All of our lands and possessions are open for refugees to come and live in our country and possibly start a new life.

France to Germany: We sincerely request that you vote yes on the UN vote concering nuclear weapons. If you don't, we will be forced to impose economic restraints on Germany.

UN vote: France votes yes.
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France - Domestic Affairs

- The government is making preperations to give refugees a temporary place to live, and getting them essential supplies.

- An air force upgrade is being started. Air force will be large in 5 years.

- Rebel activity continues in some parts of South America. Several more bombings in cities have occured. A group calling themselves the Brazilian Fascists for Independence (BFI) has claimed responsibility. The army is being sent in to try and find and stop BFI members and leaders.
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France- Statistics (1961)
Large Army
Medium Navy
Medium Airforce (upgrading to large in 5 years)
Small Nukes
Govt: Democracy
President: Charles de Gaulle (Jonny)
Tech Level: Early Modern
MPP's: NATO
War: none

[GeneralTacticus]

To France: Until the conflict witht he warsaw PAct has been resolved, we cannot vote yes, because we may be forced into using nuclear weapons. They are the only weapon we ahve left against the Warsaw PAct, and if we cannot resolve matters peacefully, we will have no other option.

[gooberboob]

To the USSR (Secret): You must take out an enemy by his weaknesses, not his strengths, Germany was the weak limb of American Capitalist Opression, Now that the war in Europe has been stalled, and German Aid to the Us is cut off, We are free to divide the USA amongst ourselves. If you want to tell your people something, tell them that the Americans killed their husbands and sons, after they had gloriously conquered the German army! Our main goal in this war is the spread of communism and the containment/weakening of capitalism, we have done that now, and will continue to do so. Additionally, the way we attacked made us suffer few casualties, and since the Russians were in a secondary wave, I wouldn't expect any massive death tolls from the Warsaw side.

[foolish_icarus]

goober:

if you are referring to the the German civilian transfer, it largely seems to be a moot point now, but if it wasn't it would be legitimate because the war had been going on for several months and I'm sure the British and French would have helped as well. If you're referring to Japan, India is just as close as Canada is, and I waited a few hours RT, so there need not be 'superfast ships', I believe my actions were entirely reasonable.


India to Germany (SECRET):

Later on, if it is possible, do you still want to carry through with the Middle Eastern Plans?

[GeneralTacticus]

Germany to India (top secret): Of course. Unfortunately, we will ahve to put them on hold until we can rebuild our military and negotiate a Russian withdrawl, but we are still determined to take the ME oilfields. Theyw ill provide an invaluable source of income for us, and place into our hands one of the greatest levers of strategic power in the world.

[Jack_www]

To Russia(secret):
If we can get all of Germany on our side that would be a great victory for the warsaw pact. It will prevent Germany from posing any treat to our plans for world power. There is a bright side in this and I think you should not feel so anger at Poland.

[Jack_www]

To Germany:
We will also pull our troops out if you sign and Non agression pact with us. We would also like to sign an alliance with your nation but ask that you do not join Warsaw pact, woulc that be acceptable?

[GeneralTacticus]

To China: We are prepared to sign a non-aggression pact with you, but are not willling to sign an alliance that would compel us to fight for you. If you mean another type of alliance (a trade allianc,e for example), we would be happy to sign one.