ok, as the secrecy is broken ...

[Michael Daumen]

That map looks good, and big. How far can the various units move in a turn? And have you taken that into account when thinking about combat?

[Boco]

Maybe a way to avoid high mf's would be to use a high road bonus. Otherwise MD's right, it's going to take some careful balancing to keep a Panther that can attack 5-10 times a turn from wiping out large numbers of weaker units.

[PDifolco]

Isn't the map TOO big ? Don't forget that Civ has no "ranged combat", and in WW2 tanks did fight mainly at 500-1000m range (and arty could bombard from 10km+).

So if squares are less than 1km it will not allow for anything resembling WW2 warfare... (arty problem notwithstanding, this one is unsolvable)

[jim panse]

Unit Discussion

The idea with the Camo is not bad. I was just surfing around to find some pictures showing German Soldiers in Camo.

Look what I´ve found. The first one shows a Wehrmacht Troop in "Camo". The first camo were some pieces of grass and wood stuck on the helmet.

[jim panse]

Unit Discussion, part 2

I also found a pic of a Waffen SS soldier in camo.

[jim panse]

Unit Discussion, parts 3-5

Fallschirmjäger in camo. 1st pic: A para sitting (maybe during a break).

[jim panse]

And a para ready for combat.

[jim panse]

And last but not least a troop pf paratroopers.

I think I´ll change the uniforms of the Germans to camo. Historically every soldier wore his field grey uniform but he also had some camo with him: 1 gear with two different sides, one white for winter, the other one with some "the-rest-of-the-year" camo.

And I don´t think the map is too big. It would be far less realistic if the XXX Corps would reach the outslirts of Arnhem in a couple of hours.

[fairline]

Luftwaffe and Heer troops wore cammo smocks, as you say - as did SS. SS were also issued with actual cammo tunic and trousers as well with a different pattern to the Heer troops. If I get time I'll draw something, as I don't have a scanner. Personally, I'd leave the regular troops in feldgrau to distinguish them from SS.

[jim panse]

Waffen SS camo!

Ok, I decided to camoflage the SS units and to leave the Wehrmacht in Feldgrau.

I made some research concerning the camo of the SS and - according to some SS units seen in various fils wearing camo smocks - I made the SS a brown-green camo smock. I also decided to post this piece of art work now to let you look upon it.

2 rows, the first one shows SS with camo, the second one without.

The units are: Schütze w/MP40, Schütze w/KAR´98, Schütze w/Panzerschreck; and the multi-unit graphic schowing a SS Company

[jim panse]

And the prove to my colour selection for the camo:

[fairline]

they look good, stephan

I did one as well in the dot pattern shown in this site:

http://hometown.aol.com/dasreichwaffenss/page14.html

[jim panse]

Well, after one week break from working on Market Garden I return glorious with a first try on the in-game map design. (I haven´t wiped out the goody boxes right now)

[Cyrion]

Very nice Jim!!

[jim panse]

Some adjustment concerning the Mining gfx