World War One - The War To End All Wars Has Just Begun

[Palaiologos]

Oh and some other things:

1 Trade routes seem to have been neglected. Moreover the absent of the trade tech slot makes it difficult to discern which cities are objectives.

2.The city style bug is apparent. With this MGE specific(or not) bug the civ you control has always the stone-bronze style. Thus if you control the Ottomans they will have western like cities, while if you control the Germans the Ottoman cities will have their normal gfx. It can be corrected via the editor or the rules.txt.

3. And IMHO irrigations should be more easily seen. The graphic used effectively hides them.

[Nilat]

Palaiologos, you really notice every little thing
And the greek army isnt so important (no offence to you greeks out there)

[Palaiologos]

It is the details that make a scenario stand the test of time.

And this one has the potential for that.


And as for the Greek army you are right. We may have not played a big part in the war, but we indeed had the best army of the time.
Better than the germans, the British, the french or whoever. Actually every balkan nation had a good army at the time.

[jim panse]

Ok, next changes ......

(1)

Trade routes seem to have been neglected. Moreover the absent of the trade tech slot makes it difficult to discern which cities are objectives.

I toggled the Objective Flag to every city ..... Is this a good idea? I wanted to make the AI more aggressive in a Single Player game.

(2)

The city style bug is apparent. With this MGE specific(or not) bug the civ you control has always the stone-bronze style. Thus if you control the Ottomans they will have western like cities, while if you control the Germans the Ottoman cities will have their normal gfx. It can be corrected via the editor or the rules.txt.

Hmmmmmmm, I thought I fixed that. Anyway, it seems my scenario design skills need to be improved. Could someone tell me how to fix that?

(3)

And IMHO irrigations should be more easily seen. The graphic used effectively hides them.

That was my intention. Anyway, should I change that too? Should I make the Irrigation visible?

(4)

Perhaps even to 1/4. Troops should be able to travel via railroad from Stettin to Posen in a month.

That´s a good point. What are the others thinking of that?

(5)

No partizans appear now, but a "Not used" tech is now available for research.

That´s true, I´ll fix that!

(6)

Perhaps more city walls should be added to cities to avoid destruction(Verdun, Posen etc). Artillery of course will ignore city walls.

Quoting Nancy Reagan I´m standing here. "War is not nice." Hmmmmm, I added a fortification to Verdun but I think I´ll leave the other cities without Fortifications.

(7)

Ships: Ship of the line now has movement of 7 while destroyers have 11. Perhaps it is a bit excessive?

I thought of the Ships of Line as some Pre-war Dreadnought, belonging more to the 19th century. Good idea? Bad idea?

(8)

Is this tiraleurs d'afrique the French foreign legion?

This unit represents the French Colonial Infantry. I´mm make them available by the Colonial Troops tech to give it some sense.

(9)

And one last thing: The greek infantry stats are a bit downgraded IMHO. Not known to most of you western europeans, the Greek army at the time was the WORLD'S finest. Greece was at war from 1912 to 1922 loosing only one battle in Asia minor that cost us a war and cancelling 10 years of glory.

Should I skill the Greek Army up???? (Your opinion I know, Pericles )

BTW, I´ll be out for the day tomorrow, the next version will arrive Sunday afternoon CET I guess.

BTW, Part 2: Thank you all for having that much patience with my scenario. I want to thank all of you for your help

[jeibel]

Truly you are a dedicated scenario designer !
Your effort in keeping up with our complaints really shine !

Howver, regarding the Alpine question, while i agree wholeheartedly with you game-wise (but want them via events !), i want to be a real pain in the ass on the historical side

Alpini were created in 1872 as the new garrisons of the mostly mountainous border.
They received their baptism of fire at Adua in 1896 where they earned their first gold medal, and fought on in Italy's war to Libia and Turkey...
They were already pretty established by the time of the war, although it's true that the most famous divisions, together known as "ragazzi del '99" ('99 war lads), the eighteen years old conscripted to counter attack after Caporetto were established in 1917.

Btw if i'm being too boring tell me. Your alpini seem to be using the shield icon of a group of bersaglieri. The alpini distinctive is a Black Feather, and that is their nickname too.
I tried making one but with orrible results.

see ya and thanks again for your patience, kindness and love for this game







Edit eek is there any way to post image on yahoo?

[Palaiologos]

Jeibel, what is the name of that battle that you people lost in 1896 against the Abyssinians?

[jeibel]

Amba Alagi, i think. Adua itself was a defeat too.

[Palaiologos]

Adua is the one that sounds more familiar to me.

That is the big one, right?

Where the Italian columns were ambushed by the spear-yielding Abyssinian savages?

[jeibel]

hmmm if you're referring to adua , also known as adowa in the english world, it seems the abissinians were actually armed with French rifles... and superior in numbers in a 5 : 1 ratios...
However i'm no history buff and had to search all of this up... And if you're trying to imply something about the italian army, then at you

that's because i feel no simpathy to it nor feel compelled to defend our 'honor' as a fighting force... it's usually fascist revisionists that do that...

there is even a civ scenario about it, called menelik (the ethiopian leader) i think

have you ever read Primo Levi's La Tregua (the Truce) ?
perhaps the most memorable character is The Greek...
and he remembers the italian occupation of greece as 'the most benevolent in history'
farewell

[Boco]

Menelik was a master at pitting the Europeans against each other. After getting French and Russian arms, he continually thwarted any real attempt by the French to get to the Nile through his lands.

Here's a shot of an Alpini. Seems to match other sources well.

[Exile]

FYI . . . .

You can solve the MGE "bronze age city" problem by downloading and using Carl Fritz' amazing and totally useful utility, CivCity. I'd post a link to his site, but I'm too lazy tonight. IIRC, there should be a downloadable version on CivFan. Carl might also assist if you ask him nicely.

[Palaiologos]

Originally posted by jeibel
hmmm if you're referring to adua , also known as adowa in the english world, it seems the abissinians were actually armed with French rifles... and superior in numbers in a 5 : 1 ratios...
However i'm no history buff and had to search all of this up... And if you're trying to imply something about the italian army, then at you

that's because i feel no simpathy to it nor feel compelled to defend our 'honor' as a fighting force... it's usually fascist revisionists that do that...

Actually i wasn't trying to imply anything. But truth is you people sucked at warfare.

have you ever read Primo Levi's La Tregua (the Truce) ?
perhaps the most memorable character is The Greek...
and he remembers the italian occupation of greece as 'the most benevolent in history'
farewell

I've never read that one. But truth is that italian occupation wasn't that bad. Apart from the mismanagement that caused the great famine of the 1942 winter, italians were pretty much liked in greece.
Actually contrary to common knowledge the horrors of occupation in greece were not caused so much by the Germans or italians, but by the Bulgars.

[our_man]

1916 Event

@IF
TURN
turn=20
@THEN
TEXT
"Easter Monday, 1916. A small and bewildered crowd of people gather outside the GPO Building in Dublin, as P.H. Pearse and other members of the 'provisional government' reads the Irish Declaration of Independence and proclaims a Republic. Across the city, members of the Irish Volunteers seize key government installations and wait for the inevitable British counterattack..."
ENDTEXT
CREATEUNIT
unit=
owner=Barbarians
veteran=yes
homecity=none
locations
0,0
endlocations
@ENDIF

That's it. All you need to specify is what type of unit should be created by the event and where you want them to be created.

[Palaiologos]

Civtweak

Here is civtweak.
I don't remember if it needs any Dll files in order to run, but if it does please tell me.

[Case]

Originally posted by fairline
Let's face it, despite enormous losses of men there were no revolutions outside of Russia.

*cough* The French Mutiny of 1917

*cough* The German mutiny/revolution/colapse of 1918