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[duke o' york]

Just suppose that the stronger of the two attacking fleets gets there first, and leaves before the other arrives. If they're the same strength then I'm stuck for any good ideas, unless the patented Jamski RNG can help me out.....

[Jamski]

I was going to stick with whoever sends their orders first, fights first.

On reflection, its better to fight second though, against weaker opposition. And we want people to send their orders fast. We also want people to find allies when they attack...

So.

The first to send their orders in, will be the last to fight, and vice versa.

Or.

The stronger fleet fights first (gives fairer fights)

What do we decide?

I'm sure it won't be a common problem anyway.

-Jam

[Ljube]

I say first to come fights last.

[Trokair]

First in Last out works the best I think. You could say, first fleet arrives and notices another fleet incoming and "hides" on the far side of another planet, waits for the second arriving fleet to leave and the moves in for the opertunity

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jamski
Why should they fight first? They have no hostile intentions to each other.

True, but they don't have the intention to ally with each other, either.

Maybe a multi-sided fight?

[Jamski]

Nah, too complicated. At worst they'll make an uneasy truce - after all they both have the same goal, the destruction of another player, and fighting each other will only make that goal less likely.

No multi-sided battles ever occurred in history that I heard of. Two sides always unite against the common enemy.

-Jam

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jamski
And we want people to send their orders fast.

Some of us have other things to do in life.

[Urban Ranger]

Capturing Bases

New ship type: marine carrier (can be any size).
Cost: same as the size class.
Attack stength: 0
Defense strength: 1 (takes 1 hit to destroy)

The marine carrier stays out of the combat. If an attacker wins a fight against a defender with a marine carrier left, he can capture the enemy base. A captured base provides 2 BPs a turn, but cannot be counted towards shipbuilding purposes.

The orginal owner of the base does not need to recapture it. Once he wins the fight, the ownership automatically reverts back.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Do we start with any shields or spies?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jamski
Two sides always unite against the common enemy.

Unless, of course, both sides want to capture the base.

[Urban Ranger]

New ship type: suicide rider (can be any size)
Cost: same as size class
Attack stength: special (see below)
Defense strength: 1 (takes 1 hit to destroy)

A suicide rider is a robotic ship that's filled with explosives and rig to self destruct on remote control. A suicide rider does not join in combat resolution. A suicide rider is destroyed if its side has no other ships left and the other side has one or more excess damage points. Each damage point destroys a suicide rider.

Each and every surviving suicide rider self destructs at the end of combat resolution, causing damage equal to 2x its size class. So a suicide rider of cruiser size causes 4 points of damage at the end of combat.

[Jamski]

Do we start with any shields or spies?

Nope, but you can build them more easily than in Nuclear War (i.e. you don't have to sacrifice too much)

New ship type: marine carrier (can be any size).

All ships carry enough marines that in the case they attack an undefended system they can capture a base.

Unless, of course, both sides want to capture the base

Ah - since bases can only be captured if undefended, then there will always be no enemy fleet in the system. This means we will have a fight between the two attackers as they try to claim the base.

New ship type: suicide rider (can be any size)

No more ships!

The rules are now closed to any additions or modifications unless there is a loophole needs closing or an unclear situation needs resolving. I'm saying that because I know how much we love to discuss rules, and the game will never start. We can have a "council" after 5 turns and see what needs tinkering with, decided democratically by any surviving players.

-Jam

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[Urban Ranger]

Do we send in just the pre-build orders or first turn orders also?

[Jamski]

Just the prebuilt orders, then I'll post up a STARMAP! Wow! Then we'll have the first round.

Prebuilds from Smiley are fine.

WITH 8 PLAYERS NOW, SIGNUP IS CLOSED

-Jam