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  • Black and White could have been the greatest game ever. And when you first got it, it looked like it was. But it was released with some really obnoxious bugs, and the AI for the creature wasn't coded well enough; instead of being fun, the creature was often a frustration. Lastly, there were too few worlds in the SP game, and for two of them your creature was annoyingly hindered.

    With 18 more months of development time, Black and White would have been right up there with Half-Life, Doom, Civilization, and all those beloved games. The engine was incredibly ahead of its time, the ideas were new and original, there was a lot of GTA-style freedom, and there were a lot of ways to entertain yourself without even trying to win.

    Black and White looked like the greatest game of all time when you first played it, but then it turned out to be nothing more than a mirage.
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    • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      SC4 has turned too far to the micro and has become, work.
      Imran is stupid, throw rocks at him!

      /me goes back to playing his city of Soyuz, 100+K people with megauberwealth and great rewards and a booming residential secctor.
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      • Originally posted by ADG
        I've never tried Quake 1, but one thing is for sure: Quake 2 is much better than Quake 3... I think I've only played Q3 for a short time before I got tired of playing, while I've considered installing Q2 again... but I doubt it'll happen now that UT2k4 has been released...
        well one big question is....
        DO U PLAY MP?

        I can see how you would like q2 over q3 in ur own lil' world if you dont. q3 completely lacks substance that would accomodate none harcore competitive players...

        You would say otherwise if u were into quake for mp reasons. Quake 1/3 is like virtua fighter 4 or starcraft. Its hard to see why game is so revered unless you're competitive gamer and/or you're really really really into that specific genre...
        :-p

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        • I thought trying to force some dexterity with whacky mouse motion in b&w was silly and laughable.

          enjoyable sim / rts game, but not a good one imo.
          :-p

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          • btw i have no respect for mindless beat em up fighter games. those game are tEh WhaCk

            "Mash that ****!!!1!"

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            • Originally posted by Zero
              well one big question is....
              DO U PLAY MP?
              Yep...
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              • ADG for MP there is no contest.........Quake3 is so much better then Quake2. I cannot believe you played both games substantially and came to your conclusion.

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                • actually quake 2 isn't bad and it has better netcode for hpbs than q3. compared to q1/q3 it clearly is not as good but if it was your first major fps online i could see how you'd think it was great. one area q2 dominates q3(but not q1) is in the official q2 ctf because it actually includes hook. i still can't believe how id left out the grappling hook in the official ctf version and thus now practically no one plays q3 ctf with hook. also if you've played q2 recently it plays much faster because players can now bunny hop similar to q3 but it's better because of the double jump.

                  i thought black & white was going to be great for the first few hours i played it. slowly i got frustrated playing it then i read some forums and saw that there were only 5 levels and tons of problems(many i'd already found). i barely played after that. i still can't believe they took the one good part of the game away on level 3(?), your creature.
                  Last edited by pg; April 18, 2004, 07:15.
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                  • But Q2 was just so much more fun to play... I play games for fun, not to win... that's why I hate CS, because everybody who plays cs only plays it to be the best player... they don't play it for fun anymore
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                    • Can you honestly say you gave Quake3 a chance? It's the most fun and playable FPS FFA game I've ever played. Just join a server with non serious players and you'll have a hoot I bet.

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                      • I played it for one full week before I returned to Q2... and so did all my friends...
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                        • Originally posted by ADG
                          But Q2 was just so much more fun to play... I play games for fun, not to win...
                          Ah, youz a casual player. I'm not sayin your opinion matters, after all, if you arent having fun with q3, than i can understand that...

                          But playing to win is fun for some people. people like challenges. and when your playing to win, a well designed game (in gameplay aspect only, such a balance game breaking glitches etc..) is just so much better. In that aspect q3 blows away q2 by a zillion mile.

                          that's why I hate CS, because everybody who plays cs only plays it to be the best player... they don't play it for fun anymore

                          Well playing to win is fun too. Its really fun getting better at something and also being challenged by people who are good. Its like playing sports. People play for thrill of competition.

                          Trying to defeat a human mind >>>>>>> playing agst a boring stupid ass computer. I don't feel satisfyed hail marying the computer 24/7, but when I go for fake punt and psyche out the human opponent.. now thats something exciting...
                          :-p

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                          • I don't like the popular games like Q3, CS etc... It's got a horrible handling.

                            I will eternally remain faithful to Soldier of Fortune (SoF1). It's not because there are professional players in Q3, UT2k4 etc that these are the only games requiring skill and have competitivite aspects. Actually Q3 is usually about spamming your rockets the right place, and running around like a b**** all the time.
                            + it's got loads of cheats. Even with punkbuster or whatever protection Q3 has I can play on the protected servers with aimbot and kick major arse
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                            • Wow, almost 200 posts of rubbish games and only 4 mentions of civ 3... shame on you all (except those who mentioned it!).

                              And Dissident, double shame on you! Civ 2 is probably the second best game ever... tsk!

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                              • Originally posted by Trajanus
                                I don't like the popular games like Q3, CS etc... It's got a horrible handling.

                                I will eternally remain faithful to Soldier of Fortune (SoF1). It's not because there are professional players in Q3, UT2k4 etc that these are the only games requiring skill and have competitivite aspects. Actually Q3 is usually about spamming your rockets the right place, and running around like a b**** all the time.
                                + it's got loads of cheats. Even with punkbuster or whatever protection Q3 has I can play on the protected servers with aimbot and kick major arse
                                Yes Q3 has cheats. so does CS. So does UT. So does SOF. Only reason why you wouldnt be seing alot of cheats for SOF would be if game doesnt demand cheats because of its non-competitve nature.

                                Thats why you play LAN whenever you wanna play seriously. Or clan games.

                                YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games
                                YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games
                                YOU NEVER EVER PLAY PUB games

                                unless u wanna kill time. and **** around.

                                Theres FPS, and theres pub games. Two completely different game, same software.,,,. but two complete different games. seriously.

                                I wont flame you cause you dont sound like you play Q3 seriously at all, but youre completely wrong. Theres a whole load of difference between just spamming rockets and spamming "smartly". ( )

                                and its not about just spamming **** all over the screen. in quake, every weapon is theoratically dodgeable, even friggin rails. Practice evasive movements and you can technically be g0ds. Match between 2 inhuman players would be ridiculous if it wasnt for a machine gun, which has instant hitscan.

                                Another reason why i hate UT:
                                n00b snipers with that gay ass instant hitscan sniper rifles. tEh whack. If i want to play first spot, first shot gamers, id be playing wussy ass Counter-strike.

                                I read an article about some gamer complaingin how all the n00b players use sniper guns. Why the **** wouldnt they in UT? instant hitscan, one shot one kill capability and game pace is slow (compared to q3) OMG if u use other weapons ur teh ******....

                                i havent played sof1 or 2, but i heard game design was pretty rubbish. Fun game, but crappy for any serious play.
                                Last edited by Zero; April 18, 2004, 23:11.
                                :-p

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