Baldurs gate - how should I start.

[Marid Audran]

Spider Spawn (Sword Spiders!), Greater Malisom (lower enemy saving throws ), Improved Invisibility, Emotion: Despair, Minor Sequencer, Enchant Weapon (instant +3 weapons are convienent early in the game), Spirit Armor (ethereal set of Full Plate, weight: 0!), Domination (ultra-charm), Animate Dead (Skeletal Warriors!), Cloud Kill, Spellshield, Hold Monster, and Feeblemind are nothing to snort at!

After Baldur's Gate I all one's first-level slots get filled up with Identify and Magic Missle; fairly boring. I wish they vast majority of lame 1st-level spells improved enough to be worth dabbling in. When is the last time someone memorized Chill Touch or Larlock's Minor Drain? To wit, it makes taking an enchanter a major drawback.

[Jamski]

Spider Spawn - worst summonisng spell in the game. Imp Invis - doesn't work properly in BG2(too weak) OR IWD2(too good). Enchant weapon - have +3 weapons anyway. Spirit armour - have better bracers and robes by then. Minor Sequencer IS good, ok. Domination - if they're WORTH dominating, then they make the save. Animate dead - leave it to a cleric, they get the S. Warriors sooner. Cloudkill either hurts the party is is used as cheese (fire cloudkill, close the door) Hold monster - maginally useful, but for the spell level VERY underpowered. Feeblemind - if its worth feebleminding it will make the save 95% of the time.

What spells is an 11th level mage using? Magic missile, fireball and a few buffs.

-Jam

[Traianvs]

I know everything about IE games

http://www.interplay.com/interact/d...st.asp?Dltype=1

Get all the music from BG, BG2, IWD, PS:T etc in mp3 format.

My favorite - the Dragon fighting music from BG2

I don't see any dragon song, unless you mean "the domain of the dragon"

I always liked the main title song... shutting down the game after returning to the main menu and hearing that song is very, very, difficult

[Traianvs]

Btw spider spawn: worst summoning spell in the game?

what about animal summoning I then?


sword spiders absolutely kick ass! one of my fav little animals in BG

[Jamski]

I don't see any dragon song, unless you mean "the domain of the dragon"

THAT'S the one. After about 2 minutes 30 it goes WILD. Its one of the best bits of game music I know.

Btw spider spawn: worst summoning spell in the game?

For its level, yes. 80% of the time you get 1 spider, 20% 2 spiders. Low numbers. You don't get Sword Spiders untill you are level 12. Then you can cast Invisible Stalkers. They are one of the best summons. Even Summon Monster II gets better creatures (12 HD worth vs a 6HD spider) Also - Sword Spiders don't have poison

-Jam

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Jamski
Cloudkill either hurts the party is is used as cheese (fire cloudkill, close the door)

I wouldn't say that. Many times you can either position yourself around the outside and launch arrows in, or use it with stinking cloud/web for good effect. It's powerful and it stays, IMHO easily worth memorising. However isn't it a 5th level spell? Not to mention casting it when among hordes of relatively nasty monsters and killing them all. Although I do tend to preer death spell/fog for that.

Originally posted by Jamski
What spells is an 11th level mage using? Magic missile, fireball and a few buffs.

I use mages a lot more than that. For holding monsters in place (stinking cloud is a wonderful spell), for the numerous attacking spells, for helping party members in danger, for any number of reasons. There is always a way to do a fight that's far to hard using magic. How else can, say, a level 9/10 party kill Kangaxx, or defeat the Shadow Dragon? (two of my favourite fights ). IMHO, while magic missile and fireball are used a lot, there are many more spells that help greatly.

[Jamski]

How else can, say, a level 9/10 party kill Kangaxx, or defeat the Shadow Dragon?

A level 9/10 party should be running like hell from Kangaxx.

I had a great time last night meleeing Firkragg with Chloe, Jaheira, Anomen and Keldorn. Beat him too I love the dragon fights.

-Jam

[Drogue]

I love dragon fights too. With Yoshi's traps, a lower resistance/breach or two, some dooms and then some kill all spells, it's quite easy. Oh, and a *few* summons

[duke o' york]

I am totally confused by this thread.

Which posts refer to BG1, and which to BG2, and which are just spam?

(Actually, I don't need that much help with the last category )

[Drogue]

There's a continuation. The ones with Kelsey and Chloe and the later ones are all BGII, but the spells ones relate to both, when you can get them.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Jamski


A level 9/10 party should be running like hell from Kangaxx.

I had a great time last night meleeing Firkragg with Chloe, Jaheira, Anomen and Keldorn. Beat him too I love the dragon fights.

-Jam

But you just started a new game!! How the hell can you have evolved so quickly that you can melee firkraag!!

GRR I just don't get why I suck so incredibly hard at this game, yet it's so much fun

[Drogue]

He's played all day yesterday, he's probably level 12-15 by now. And Kensai's really are special when it comes to dragons

I found doing Firkraag's dungeon, especially the tomb of King Samia, a lot harder than Firkraag himself.

[lord of the mark]

what so great about the Silvershield estate - i mean for a good party that isnt into stealing???


I did the Seven suns thingy went to Scar, went back to seven suns and then back to flaming fist hq. Im in hq now and things have gotten, er, interesting.

Spoiler:

found i couldnt get out, guessed id been fooled and these guys must have gone over to the iron throne. Killed the guards on the main floor - when this didnt hurt my rep, i realized i was right. saved, went upstairs to fight "duke eltan" he killed me with some flame bolt. I will reload, and prepare better for this battle.

[Drogue]

LotM: the Silvershield Estate is important, when you're told to do it.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Drogue
LotM: the Silvershield Estate is important, when you're told to do it.

Ok, thanks.