NFL Draft Thread

[H Tower]

Originally posted by reismark

Hmm... Brad, Shane Matthews, Jim Miller, Shaun King, now Simms... there's probably one or two others down in Europe, so that's about right

you'll want to immediately get rid of Shane and Jim Miller, both are ex bears and therefore can't be good. I mean, even the bears didn't want them!

[SlowwHand]

Simms goes to a perfect Team/Coach to utilize his talents.

Dallas? So far I'm real happy.
Top-notch CB. Stud Center. One of the better Tight Ends.

[Imran Siddiqui]

And they ended up with Chris Kelsay, who is garbage.

He ain't bad at all. Solid starter.

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Tampa took Simms! Was it just a pity pick?

[Drake Tungsten]

He ain't bad at all. Solid starter.

I think I might know a bit more about him than you.

He's garbage. Caucasian garbage at that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

He's fast, quick, had a great combine, determined. He'll be fine.

[Drake Tungsten]

He's fast, quick, had a great combine, determined. He'll be fine.

Too bad he's a horrible pass-rusher. The guy does well at the combine and everyone suddenly forgets about his total lack of production during college. If he's so good, why were the Huskers completely lacking a pass rush last year?

I've seen players come out of Nebraska who made solid DE starters in the NFL. Grant Wistrom is the best example. Kelsay is no Grant Wistrom. Hell, he's no Jared Tomich.

[SlowwHand]

Pity-pick?

Imran. I thought you knew some football.

[Sava]

The Bears screwed themselves. 'Nuff said. Jauron will be gone after another sub .500 season. Maybe we can look forward to a Super Bowl in 2007.

[Drake Tungsten]

What's wrong with Grossman? The Bears got a hell of a QB with a low pick.

[Ming]

I agree... He will be a good backup and can learn the system while we all see if Stewart can do the job

[SlowwHand]

[Sava]

Grossman is an all right pick. But the Bears should have taken Newman or Suggs at #4 and gotten a QB in the second round. DB is the biggest problem for the Bears and they didn't address it. The second round DB they got had a career high of 2 interceptions last season.

This is how I rank the Bears needs pre-draft:
1. DB
2. OL
3. DL
4. QB
5. LB depth

Michael Haynes might be a decent guy, but certainly not the super-star that Suggs could be. Haynes had a career college sack total of 25.5 while Suggs had 24 sacks last year. I'm optimistic about Grossman, but not with John Shoop as an offensive QB. If Jauron and his regime stick around, they will ruin Grossman.

[SlowwHand]

Tell me this guy shouldn't be playing in Texas, or San Diego.

Pick 224 Seattle
Wallace, Taco WR 6-1 190 Kansas State

[SlowwHand]

It had looked to me like Cincinnati and Dallas had done well.
I didn't pay attention to Philly, since they suck.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/6339928

Three blue ribbons awarded after Day 1

By Pat Kirwan
Special to NFL.com


April 27, 2003) -- NFL.com analyst Pat Kirwan offers a breakdown of the three teams he thinks fared the best on Day 1 of the 2003 NFL Draft.

1. Philadelphia -- The Eagles moved up to No. 15 to get DE Jerome McDougle (Miami, Fla.), who will replace Hugh Douglas, now a Jacksonville Jaguar after leaving via free agency. McDougle plays with a high motor and is athletic enough to drop out in coverage like Douglas did.


Defensive end Jerome McDougle reacts to being selected by the Eagles.

L.J. Smith (Rutgers) was the top tight end on Philadelphia's board, and according to the coaches, had the best vertical jump of any player in the draft. The Eagles offense has a great history of featuring the tight end and will get lots of mileage out of Smith.

Philadelphia took a big wide receiver in the third round, Billy McMullen (Virginia). The knock on him was a lack of speed but in a private workout, he ran a 4.4 and should be a very early contributor.

2. Dallas -- It could be argued that the Cowboys did the best job on Day 1.
Their three picks each have Bill Parcells' stamp. Terence Newman (Kansas State) was unanimously the top cornerback in the draft. He's a guy who can shut down a No. 1 receiver.

In the second round, Dallas came right back with a classic Parcells selection and took center Al Johnson (Wisconsin). This pick reminds me of the year he took Dave Wohlabaugh. Tight end Jason Witten (Tennessee), who had a first-round grade, was the team's third-round choice. Parcells is well-known for his use of the tight end, especially in the red zone. Look for the Cowboys to use a lot of "bunch sets" featuring Witten, to make reads easier for QB Chad Hutchinson.

3. Cincinnati -- It's clear Marvin Lewis' influence in the draft room is strong. The Bengals got the best quarterback in the draft, and he is already signed and working on the playbook.

In the second round, Cincinnati took offensive lineman Eric Steinbach (Iowa). In a survey of 11 NFL offensive line coaches, Steinbach tied Utah's Jordan Gross (who went to Carolina at No. 8) for the best lineman in the draft. In the third round, Cincy took a chance on medical risk WR Kelley Washington (Tennessee), who had a first-round talent grade. Palmer will find many ways to get the ball to this big, talented player.

With a solid second day, there are a few teams that can rival the first day of the above three. The fourth round is critical and will be treated like the first round was yesterday for many teams.

[Chris 62]

Yep, I'm happy with Joseph, the next two picks were typical Giant moves, reaches for guys from small schools.

I really thought they would go OL when 8 DL were out, but the Cards, god bless em, made their usually stupid pick, leaving Joseph right there.