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[Darius871]

Hmm, I guess D1ck Solomon, there we go.

[Alvaro]

i think this was all a message from god: quit smoking.

[Pekka]

Sounds uptight.. I'm not wondering why he didn't sell you after closing time, even if 1 minute because then it would register 00.01.. but I don't know why he couldn't sell you when you first tried.. uptight.

I remember when I turned 18 (which is legal age here to buy beer), but before that like 2 months I went and bought some, because they never usually asked to see any ID anyway. Well this time some lady did, and I thought well.. but she smiled and said 'well you're so close, here you go'. Two months is not THAT close, but 2 minutes IS.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Alvaro
i think this was all a message from god: quit smoking.

The message I got was "After tonight, you can see that the world I created is a surrealistic nightmare. Just have a smoke and try not to think about it."

Anyway I wouldn't really call myself a 'smoker' anyway, as I only have maybe 5 cigarettes in a week, usually only when I drink or work. And don't tell me that's what people always say before they get addicted, because I've smoked this sparingly for three years without needing more.

[Inverse Icarus]

people have gotten busted, the cops actually put ads in the paper asking for minors to act in "stings". he could be protecting himself

or, he could just be an *******

[Darius871]

Originally posted by UberKruX
people have gotten busted, the cops actually put ads in the paper asking for minors to act in "stings". he could be protecting himself

Again, the dude should know that NO self-respecting cops would set up a sting to catch a guy for selling two minutes early. It just wouldn't happen.

Also, think of this angle: if they were to set up stings where the acting kid is supposed to be 17.999999999 years old, they would have to print out a brand new phony ID for every bust, as after the first day the ID used would be useless. The expense of printing all those phony cards (if it's even allowed for cops to do that in the first place) wouldn't be worth it to catch a few clerks for being reasonable and selling at 11:58.

[loinburger]

The summer I turned 21 I didn't have a driver's license, since Ohio has an idiotic renewal practice -- your license expires on the day of your birthday, never mind that the DMV is closed on my birthday, and you can't get your license early (if you're about to turn 21) because they can't issue an over-21 license to somebody who is under-21. So, I had to mail off for my license, and of course it took at least two months for those lazy sons of *****es to process the paperwork, so I didn't have a license with which to purchase alcohol.

I did, however, have a passport. One or two liquor stores were fine with my using a passport, but quite a few liquor stores and all of the grocery stores said that a passport wasn't sufficient. I pointed out that it is ten times more difficult to forge a passport than to forge a driver's license, but they wouldn't hear a word of my protests. I almost had to go through my 21st birthday sober.

[Darius871]

Even if your under-21 licence expired, couldn't you have just pointed to your birthday on it and said 'I am obviously now 21'? Eventually you'd find a clerk that would be reasonable.

[tinyp3nis]

Passports are here the most "respected" ID by the bars and stores. And the reason is exactly what you said: They are hard to forge.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Darius871
Even if your under-21 licence expired, couldn't you have just pointed to your birthday on it and said 'I am obviously now 21'? Eventually you'd find a clerk that would be reasonable.

That might have worked -- the problem was that I had to drive to work every day, so it wouldn't do to carry around an expired driver's license (I wouldn't have been able to make it to the DMV until two weeks after my birthday). Illinois has (IIRC) a much more sensible practice -- your license expires three months after your 21st birthday. Ohio's DMV just happens to be stupider than average.

[Pekka]

Some wouldn't take passport? That's just stupid . As Tinyp3nis pointed out, they are usually the most 'respectd' IDs anywhere (well not in US I guess).

I showed my passport in liquor store in New York, and they also said 'you have driving license?' and sure I had.
Funny, because we have different kind of driving lincenses, they took it happily, but passports are all about just the same. Model is same.

[Pekka]

The point is, they just looked at it and wouldn't have figured out if I bought it $20 in my neighbourhood. But, it said driving license and it had my birthday.. and that was enough .

[Guest]

I think you could have actually made trouble at them for not accepting a passport. Around here at least, its considered ultimate as a form of identification , way more than driver's licenses and such, specially since those are different for every province, so even though it might not be a forgery, a clerk might not recognize foreign licenses or other such IDs.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Happy Birthday

[*End Is Forever*]

A proper 10-year passport is about as good a form of identification as you can get over here...