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  • An EU seat would be a good idea in the future, but is completely unrealistic right now. As of today, foreign policy is almost stricly under the responsibility of nation States within the EU, and the 'Common Foreign and Security Policy' has no authority on its own. This will evolve in time, but the foreign and military integration of the EU is pure fiction yet.
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    • I don't want the EU speaking for the UK.
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      • Originally posted by Boddington's
        I don't want the EU speaking for the UK.
        Isn't the UK still only half-way in the EU? They haven't accepted the Euro, right?

        So an EU seat for all the EU except the UK.
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        • OK, sure. And the UK keeps its.
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          • An EU seat would be a good idea in the future, but is completely unrealistic right now. As of today, foreign policy is almost stricly under the responsibility of nation States within the EU, and the 'Common Foreign and Security Policy' has no authority on its own. This will evolve in time, but the foreign and military integration of the EU is pure fiction yet.


            Very true. This is why you should start out by giving the seat to a member state voted in by the EU, not the EU itself. If the EU ever does develop into a full-fledged political union, then you could transfer the seat over to the EU itself.
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            • Hopefully, France has been allowed a voice for the last time.
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              • The veto seems to be a big issue since it is absolute. Why not grant certain members a limited veto such as the one the US president has . . . a veto that can be over-ridden by a special majority in favor of a resolution. You could make it so that a veto by one of the big 5 could only be overturned by a positive vote of say 80 % of the security council and a veto by two big 5 members is absolute.

                This idea remains problematic but I see it as a better structure than absolute vetos.
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                • My solution is the only one that makes sense.

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                  • NYE: I would seriously like Minnesota to become part of Canada. The US is too full of conservatives for us Minnesotans. Kick out Gov. Pawlenty while your at it.

                    Vetoes should be removed, the size of the SC should be inceased to 25, and here are what the permenent members should be:

                    US
                    Germany
                    UK
                    Australia
                    China
                    Russia
                    South Africa
                    Egypt
                    India
                    Brazil

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                    • No, vetoes need to go. They are POINTLESS.

                      The "secuirty council" (though there would be no point in having it) should be US, Brazil, Germany, Russia, , India, Egypt, South Africa, China, and Australia.
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                      • France stays.

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                        • If someone should go it's US/UK, there're the ones that violated UN procedures.

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                          • I mean the contribution of France to Europe is somehing the UK can only dream about.... so they deserve it wholeheartedly.

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                            • Plus the way that France (Russia and CHina and Germany) gave the finger to the US in the UN... man.. priceless

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                              • Originally posted by paiktis22
                                Plus the way that France (Russia and CHina and Germany) gave the finger to the US in the UN... man.. priceless
                                You also have to consider that France and Russia recieved the forbidden "Unaniomous Clap" in the UN.

                                Britain and America........didn't
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