Powell's Comments Re: Chile '73

[Chilean President™]

Is nice too meet someone like you... You sure love science fiction stories.
Even the Chilean socialists and communist of this days know and accept that Allende kill himself after the militaries gave him the chance to fly to Cuba with his staff and family.

These is a sad subject and I'm not willing to talk more about this. I lost family in the early 70's. I didn't knew them obviously, but is sad when I see my father's face when he talk about his cousins.

[Bereta_Eder]

Somehow I feel that Chilean President's position about the coup and the US involvment is not representative of the majority of Chileans.

Am I wrong?

[Chilean President™]

no you're not. there is a minority that keep saying that all of our problems have to do with the US. But that minority lives in the Europeans contries mostly. They are the exiled from the Pinochet government, and of course they are in title to still being angry.

But personally I think is wrong to blame other countries for something that all Chileans let happen.

[chequita guevara]

The US was behind the coup, Chileans carried it out. Or do you think that Kissinger's declaration that we were going to make your "economy scream" was just talk? Despite the declaration of the State Department contra Powell, much of the role of the US government in the Pinochet coup was uncovered by the US Senate in 1975.

[Sava]

"What... I don't see the truth!"

"Stop covering your eyes."

[chequita guevara]

One wonders how the military could claim Allende committed suicide since, AFAIK, his body was never found.

Despite CP's declaration, Chilean society is split over the Allende and Pinchot governments. There's also a large segment of society who just want the whole thing to be over and an end to the troubles.

[Sava]

They just know about these things. Let's shut up and believe them.

[Chilean President™]

His body is in the National Cementery! He was recognized by his wife after they took the body out the Presidential Palace. Every year the Socialist Party and the Comunist do a mese in the memorial grave.

Sava, you had a girl avatar before, right?

[Sava]

Sava, you had a girl avatar before, right?

Yes, Lexa Doig. I'll be using this until I come up with something better.

[Chilean President™]

Lexa Doig is just fine as avatar
Put it back

[Sava]

She'll be back in one form or another later.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Che, I think I'm going to listen to the REAL Chilean on this one.

Thank Chilean President! Your posts have been very informative.

One wonders how the military could claim Allende committed suicide since, AFAIK, his body was never found.

His body is in the National Cementery! He was recognized by his wife after they took the body out the Presidential Palace. Every year the Socialist Party and the Comunist do a mese in the memorial grave.

@ che! You'll make anything up, won't you?

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The US was behind the coup, Chileans carried it out. Or do you think that Kissinger's declaration that we were going to make your "economy scream" was just talk? Despite the declaration of the State Department contra Powell, much of the role of the US government in the Pinochet coup was uncovered by the US Senate in 1975.

More communist lies.

Che, the document you cite, the Church Report, states the exact opposite of what you just said.

True, we provided subtantial support for political opposition to Allende, we did not, however, instigate the coup. There appears to be no evidence that we even knew about it beforehand.

We cut off economic aid in response to Allende's nationalization of the US owned copper industry not only without compensation, but with demands that they pay Chile for so-called "excess profits."

In the year leading up to the 1973 coup, there were massive strikes and protests across the country. The Church report does not indicate the reasons for these protests. I think we have heard here about some of the reasons, but not all. But what is clear was that Allende's actions were causing Chile to descend into chaos and enconomic depression. The military acted to save the country from complete ruin.

Even so, immediately after the coup, we insisted that Chile folloow the Geneva Convention on the treatment of prisoners. When the OAS issued its report on human rights abuses, President Ford immediately cut off military aid.

"October 25 The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights of the O.A.S. reports "grievous violations of human rights" in Chile.

December 30 U.S. military aid is cut off."

The Church Report does not confirm communist propaganda on Chile.

[South killer]

His body is in the National Cementery! He was recognized by his wife after they took the body out the Presidential Palace. Every year the Socialist Party and the Comunist do a mese in the memorial grave.


@ che! You'll make anything up, won't you?

Perhaps the body that is in the cementery is not allende's one I don't believe he suicide either.

[Chilean President™]

When La Moneda (the Presidencial Palace) was bombarded, Allende gave his secretary (his lover) a letter and tell her to leave the palace. In the letter he said that he wouldn't resign and wouldn't face the military so if he see impossible to keep fighting he will "end my life before they force me too surrender".

I said before that his wife recognize the body just after the military took the body out.
In addition there is a photography of his body right after he committed suicide on the sofa of the Toesca Room of La Moneda. At his feet lay the AK-47. (but of course you're going to say that this was a fake picture).

Sept. 13, 1973, after the authopsy, his body was send to the General Cementery in Viña del Mar, for mathers of security. Later his body was carried to the National Cementery in Santiago.