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    By GEORGE GEDDA, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON - When a student asked Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) about the 1973 military coup in Chile, the retired general turned diplomat made no secret of his deep misgivings about the U.S. role in that upheaval.

    "It is not a part of American history that we're proud of," Powell said, quickly adding that reforms instituted since then make it unlikely that the policies of that Cold War era will be repeated.

    The matter might have ended there had not Washington operative William D. Rogers taken notice of Powell's televised comment. Rogers served under Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in 1975-76 as the department's top official on Latin America and maintains a professional relationship with Kissinger.

    In a highly unusual move, the State Department issued a statement that put distance between the department and its top official. The statement asserted that the U.S. government "did not instigate the coup that ended Allende's government in 1973" — a reference to the elected president, Salvador Allende.

    Rogers was concerned that Powell's comment was reinforcing what he called "the legend" that the Chile coup was a creation of a Kissinger-led cabal working in league with Chilean military officers opposed to Allende. He called the department legal office to point out that there was a pending law suit against the government and Powell's comment was not helpful.

    "I also called Kissinger," said Rogers. "I talked to him about it. I wouldn't say he was upset. ... I told Henry I think this is bad stuff. It doesn't help the U.S. legal position."

    Rightly or wrongly, Kissinger has been linked to the coup that brought Gen. Augusto Pinochet (news - web sites)'s military government to power.

    Rogers said the Chilean military acted not because the United States urged it to do so, "but because they believed that had the Allende regime continued much longer, Chilean liberties would be irretrievably lost."

    Peter Kornbluh, a student of Latin American issues, whose book, "The Pinochet File," will be released in September, disputed Rogers' account. "The U.S. government carried out a clear effort to undermine and destabilize Allende's ability to govern, creating the climate necessary for a coup to take place," Kornbluh said.

    Rogers insists Kornbluh overstates the case. "Climate is one thing. Instigating a military attack on the civilian regime is quite another."

    Kornbluh said the perceived U.S. role in Chile did not end with the coup. He added that the U.S. government helped the Pinochet regime consolidate its power with overt and covert support, "despite the full knowledge of its atrocities."

    The notion of Nixon administration involvement in the post-Sept. 11, 1973, period was reinforced last November when 11 residents of Chile filed a complaint against Kissinger and the U.S. government seeking damages for deaths and other rights abuses by the Pinochet government.

    The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, also names Michael Townley, a U.S.-born former Chilean intelligence agent.

    Under the long-standing rules, Rogers said Kissinger's role as defendant is assumed by the U.S. government on grounds that Kissinger was not acting as an individual but was carrying out government policy.

    Rogers said his main concern is not the court proceeding but the perception that the U.S. government was working hand in hand with Pinochet and his allies to oust Allende.

    "The accusation that the U.S. is morally, legally or factually responsible for the coup is a canard," he said. "This is the issue raised by Powell's comment."

    The State Department statement that the U.S. government "did not instigate" the coup is more in line with Rogers' view than with Powell's.

    As for the suit against Kissinger and the U.S. government, the plaintiffs are seeking compensatory damages "in excess of $11 million" for rights abuses committed in the post-coup period. They also asked for punitive damages in an amount "at least twice the compensatory damages."
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    EDITOR'S NOTE — George Gedda has covered foreign affairs for The Associated Press since 1968.
    Not a catchy thread title, I'll admit, but I found this article interesting on a couple of different levels. Comment as you see fit.

    -Arrian
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  • #2
    It would be interesting to have more Latin American posters here instead of them going to the spanish forum...


    About that never happening again, a question and a name: Venezuela?

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    • #3
      I saw that too. I wonder how this is gonna play out? Wonder if the lawsuit will now call Powell as a witness.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #4
        Poor Powell, I'm sure his chickensh1tHawk fellow cabinet members are whispering to Bush, "Georgee, we gotta get rid of this guy. He's going to ruin everything!".
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #5
          Powell

          Erm, honest question, Sava, what is 'everything'?
          urgh.NSFW

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          • #6
            He should have said "Damn right we offed the commie. I did it personally, bare-handed! And we'll whack you other pussies in Europe and other lands too unless you obey us!" Then he should have unzipped, done the helicopter and shouted "Hoo ha!"

            Hey, I thought the new US foreign policy was all about US being feared instead of loved. Wouldn't this be the perfect opportunity to show it?
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            • #7


              Stefu, that was hilarious.

              Thank you.

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • #8
                That is just another example of what usa has done, not only in Chile, but in many others parts of the world. For example, in argentina the military junta that started the falklands war was helped by usa to get to power.
                The same has done usa in cuba (batista), in Irak (Guess who placed saddam in power???) and in many other places. During the '60 ,'70 and '80 USA implemented in latin america the ''national security progamme'' or something like that, that wasn't nothing more that aiding all military dictators in all latin american countries. There was even a period in which ALL (Yes i said ALL)latin american countries from Argentina to Mexico including brazil, chile, uruguay, etc. had a dictator placed or aided by USA. That's why i'm not anti-american, but anti american foreign policy. The american people has to wake up and realise that all the stories your government tells you are LIES, excuses to plant dictators, organise wars, and steal other countries.
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                • #9
                  in Irak (Guess who placed saddam in power???)


                  I know it wasn't the United States.
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                  • #10
                    what is this notion that dictators need to be propped up? They usually come up by theirselves just great.

                    Of course, both the US, and the SU had contacts with Saddam. so did the French, the Germans, the Chinese, and well, almost everyone. I think Israel is one of the only countries who didn't ( though I won't sign anything ).
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #11
                      I'm glad to see Powell is still able of political courage, despite being bound by this bigot administation.

                      He is a true statesman
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                      • #12
                        Chile 1973... what happen that year?




                        Allende was a jack@$$ he was removed by the armed forces due to the economical chaos in the country. Besides he create a plan to transform Chile (a democracy since the independence in 1810) into a Communist Dictatorship

                        The problem was that the military government kill to many inocent people the true is that when Pinochet came to power he had 80% of approval.. when he leave the presidency he had 30%.

                        Economics reforms under the Pinochet administration
                        Civil right under the Pinochet administration

                        Anyway, the situation on Venezuela is more chaotic than Chile'73, and Chavez still have support of a large number of the population ... who knows why..
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chilean President
                          Anyway, the situation on Venezuela is more chaotic than Chile'73, and Chavez still have support of a large number of the population ... who knows why..
                          Because his oppenents manage to be even worse ?
                          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                          • #14
                            This post will forever and always be used by apolyton's neo-cons to prove that the US was right in its' support for Pinochet, and was actually following the voice of the people of Chile.
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #15
                              Maybe... but then why there isn't a third choice.. one in the middle.
                              The problem is that the venezuelan politics seems not willing to achieve a peaceful resolution. Chavez want to kill the guys on the opposition and the press. The opposition only want a bloody coup.

                              The two faces of the same coin.
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