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  • #31
    Name one.
    Gnu Ex Machina - the Gnu in the Machine

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    • #32
      I think your comment which is present in Mad Monk's signature was enough-you stated, I believe, that killing an Israeli settler (or as you asked for it to be clarified, soldier), was not reprehensible.
      Last edited by Zevico; April 15, 2003, 09:04.
      "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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      • #33
        Myths and Facts: A Guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict by Mitchell G. Bard

        Online version:
        Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.
        Last edited by Al'Kimiya; April 15, 2003, 10:02.
        får jag köpa din syster? tre kameler för din syster!

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        • #34
          Zevico, and this is anti-semitic why?

          It is clearly anti-israeli, but as long as the settler leaves the settlement and israel ends the occupation, I wish him no harm.

          Your comment merely reinforces my point: when israels crimes are exposed, the first line of defense is always to scream anti-semitism.
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          • #35
            Name one.
            More than 24 hours has passed, and no reply.

            Not that I expected one, of course.
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            • #36
              Your comment merely reinforces my point: when israels crimes are exposed, the first line of defense is always to scream anti-semitism.
              BS.
              - What crime dd you reveal here?
              - Regarding the sig-I apologise then, although I still think that's a disgusting thing to think-you are saying their murder is okay.
              "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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              • #37
                What crime dd you reveal here?
                Well, as this thread showed, it si enough to merely advocate using unbiased sources for the accusations to come flying...

                - Regarding the sig-I apologise then, although I still think that's a disgusting thing to think-you are saying their murder is okay.
                I think it is a disgusting thing that they are willing to be killed for land...

                Look, if they were willing to leave without violence - Great! But I think they have shown pretty conclusively that they wont. And I'm not going to condemn the killing of them more than I would condemn the killing of a german soldier during ww2. I can merely express sorrow over the situation that led up to the necessity.
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                • #38
                  I think it is a disgusting thing that they are willing to be killed for land...
                  Look, if they were willing to leave without violence - Great! But I think they have shown pretty conclusively that they wont.
                  Firstly, it doesn't matter whether they are against leaving or not. They could belong to Kach for all Israel cares, but if Israel removed the settlements, they would have to leave as well, by force if necessary (as has been shown before). That is not an excuse to kill them.
                  Secondly- I do not blame them for not wanting to leave in one sense; they did pay money for it, after all.
                  Thirdly- You are portraying this as if it were a war, settlers versus palestinians. It isn't. Settlers are civilians. That means that in a war, people are not meant to purposely target them. To compare them with a german soldier in ww2 and to state that it is a 'necessity' is ridiculous.
                  Last edited by Zevico; April 16, 2003, 09:03.
                  "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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                  • #39
                    I've recently read "A Peace to End All Peace" by David Fromkin which I think is a decent book as far as setting up the situation goes.
                    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                    -Bokonon

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