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  • #91
    Originally posted by raghar


    "Mommy, can I go play the video games? can I can I can I? please mommy..."
    urgh.NSFW

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    • #92
      Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
      Yeah, I guess it's a WW2 light battletank. They had many funny designs back then, and WW2 antitank vehicles could be similar to certain tanks in design. Modern tanks normally uses one huge barrel whose range matters...
      No, it's T-35 first Soviet Heavy tank.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
        Nice site BeBro, I found this awesome russian song there...

        Code:
        The tanks were rattling like a thunder
        The soldiers went to final fight
        And here they carried young commander
        With head all broken outright
        Na pole tanki grohotali,
        Soladty shli v poslednii boi,
        A molodogo komandira,
        Nesli s probitoi golovoi...
        Old, good, WW2 song...
        It's one of my favorite songs. It's very good translation, but original Russian version is 1000 times better of course.
        I like to sing it, when I'm drunk

        Sad melody I guess...
        They are good at making sad songs, the russians.
        It's sad, yes... but at the same time it's fast song.
        Btw, I can find you a Russian version if you wish.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Azazel
          Next thing you gonna tell me that muskets are better than machine guns



          how many rounds per minute does the best autoloader shoot?
          Standard autoloader of T-80U makes 7-9 per minute.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Joseph
            For Serb. The US had a 152 mm tank 30 years ago and did not like it. It was the M-60A2. It saw service in Vietnam.
            I guess main gun of T-95 is somehow different from M-60A2.
            There was a T-80 in the vote. In Gulf 1, the Marines with their M-60A3 met the Iraqi Republican Guard T-80s and destroyed all of them without a single loss.
            Are you absolutely sure that it weren't cheap, export modifications of T-72?

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            • #96
              Standard autoloader of T-80U makes 7-9 per minute.

              That's crap, you realize that, right?
              urgh.NSFW

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              • #97
                No

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                • #98
                  well, it is. Human crews do better.
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #99
                    Crew where Arnold Shwarzeneger is loader?

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                    • no. a human loader will do around 10-20 shots per minute, 15 on average.
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • If he's well-trained, of course. hmmm, now I see the logic in putting autoloaders on Russian tanks.
                        urgh.NSFW

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                        • Originally posted by Azazel
                          no. a human loader will do around 10-20 shots per minute, 15 on average.

                          A human could load the gun within 4 seconds in the middle of fire fight while tank is moving at top speed through rough terrain?
                          Yeah, right and I have a bridge to sell.
                          1) I'm not a tankist but my buddy was. And he believes that tank ammunition is pretty heavy stuff and that humans are affected by such thing as tiredness.
                          2) Tanks do not shots non-stop as machine guns, yet. You need some time to chose target and rotate the turret. So, speed of modern autoloaders is more than enough, but it helps to:
                          a) reduce number of crew members -> space, wich is one of the critical factors for tanks.
                          b) exclude such factors as tiredness/mistakes/injury/death of loader.

                          Seriously speaking, do you really believe that manual loading is better concept than autoloading?

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                          • Originally posted by Azazel
                            If he's well-trained, of course. hmmm, now I see the logic in putting autoloaders on Russian tanks.
                            I'll bet my money on Russian crew in any physical competition between Russian and Israelis tankists.
                            Btw, the presence of autoloader doesn't mean that tank's gun can't be loaded manually. It's possible to load it manually, but who needs it when automatic can handle this?

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                            • Look dude, just ask MtG.


                              I'll bet my money on Russian crew in any physical competition between Russian and Israelis tankists

                              "sila yes, uma ne nado"?

                              pomni 73'iy.
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • Originally posted by Azazel
                                Look dude, just ask MtG.
                                Who? Magic the Gathering?

                                I'll bet my money on Russian crew in any physical competition between Russian and Israelis tankists

                                "sila yes, uma ne nado"?
                                We have a Tank academy in my home city. Believe me they are pretty tough mother****ers, consider how they fights on discotekas.
                                pomni 73'iy.
                                I don't remember that in 1973 Israelis fought versus Russian tank divisions.
                                Anyhow, pomni 45.

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