Dancing in the streets!

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


I haven't lost anything. As I said in a thread awhile ago, once the war started, my only goal was to see it end as quickly as possible with as little loss of life as possible.

It's not over yet, so I think celebration is very premature, especially since, as MtG pointed out, soldiers are still fighting and dying.

And I don't feel like dancing over any war, frankly.

Well tell the people of Iraq to stop celebrating then. That's what this thread is about. And not withstanding your moral high ground some people do celebrate when they are freed from an oppresor. Of course Bill Clinton didn't start this war so I can see why you do not agree with it.

[DinoDoc]

I don't know what was wrong with Boris' pic. I'd cheer too if I were them. I'm mean living under Stalin and all had to suck majorly.

[Pyrodrew]

Maybe some people didn't like your comparison of US Troops to Nazis

I agree with Ming, that was very poor form. I didn't PM/notify anyone, but I could definitely see someone, especially any UK/US soldier/vet being greatly offended by that.

[Q Classic]

can we please give clinton a rest?

jeebus, he wasn't a great president or a good guy, but man, you can't pin everything on him.

you want to know why the world's in the fix it's in? not because of democrats, you republicans. not because of the republicans, you democrats. it's because of every single idiotic person who ever existed who thought that they were right and refused to listen to anyone else.

like most of the republicans and democrats today.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by MarkG

I imagine the strings will be very strong. I mean, what if the Iraqis decided to elect an Islamist government?

even worse, can you imagine an iraqi goverment giving the oil contracts to the french?

Mon dieu!

[GePap]

Originally posted by Lincoln


Well tell the people of Iraq to stop celebrating then. That's what this thread is about. And not withstanding your moral high ground some people do celebrate when they are freed from an oppresor. Of course Bill Clinton didn't start this war so I can see why you do not agree with it.

Don't worry Lincoln..if Clinto had gone about getting into this war like Georgie boy has, i would still opose it.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Well, Tikrit and Kirkuk are holdouts, the US is reinforcing the north, and Rumsfeld says the fight ain't over.

Baghdad is a nice show, but I'd like to see the substantive results.

Incidentally, for those who jumped up and down about Boris' post (and some know how much I little Yankee liberal Boris ), Generalmajor F.W. von Mellenthin and other German authors wrote quite extensively how many of the peoples "conquered" by the Germans originally welcomed the Army, but then turned against the occupation rapidly after the political types came in.

Obviously, we're not going to be anything like the Nazis, but it still doesn't take much before foreign "liberators" are viewed as despised oppressors. Has Najaf gotten it's water supply back? Most of the large Iraqi cities we passed through had major infrastructure loss and water supply loss. What condition are they in?

Even in areas we control, Iraqis are dying daily of indirect causes of the war and the regime, but with Saddam out of power, the focus on who to blame will rapidly shift to the current power.

Anybody want to go to Afghanistan today and take a public opinion survey on what they think of US "liberators?"

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Lincoln


First we need to liberate the Democrats.

Please do. Start with Barbara Boxer, then give the rest of us billions in aid. We'll take good care of it.

[Robert]

The reaction of some people suggests that they're not happy at all with the freedom of the Iraqi people.

The sound like they wish these people would never have been freed.

I guess in 1945 we weren't allowed to be happy as well, since we lost many millions of people.
But my grandparents were happy! Not because they didn't care about the victims, but because they knew that soon no more new victims would die!

But I know it's hard for people to admit to have been wrong. But you guys can stick into your little world. I'm happy to have seen the iraqi people celebrating their freedom.

I care less about you guys getting real.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Lincoln


Well tell the people of Iraq to stop celebrating then. That's what this thread is about. And not withstanding your moral high ground some people do celebrate when they are freed from an oppresor. Of course Bill Clinton didn't start this war so I can see why you do not agree with it.

Once again, another lame attempt to smear people you disagree with by using the "Clinton Bogeyman."

Tell me, o wise one, where hast I previously voiced any support for Clinton's military actions, hmmmm?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
Don't worry Lincoln..if Clinton had gone about getting into this war like Georgie boy has, i would still opose it.

Why would you care about how it was done? I was under the impression that your opossition was more broad than that.

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by GePap


Don't worry Lincoln..if Clinto had gone about getting into this war like Georgie boy has, i would still opose it.

Anyway, I will be happy when the war is over (probably in a few days). I do not care for most politicians but I am happy that there is some good news now. I will not begrudge these people their celebration regardless of the motives of any politician.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Incidentally, for those who jumped up and down about Boris' post (and some know how much I little Yankee liberal Boris ), Generalmajor F.W. von Mellenthin and other German authors wrote quite extensively how many of the peoples "conquered" by the Germans originally welcomed the Army, but then turned against the occupation rapidly after the political types came in.

Obviously, we're not going to be anything like the Nazis, but it still doesn't take much before foreign "liberators" are viewed as despised oppressors. Has Najaf gotten it's water supply back? Most of the large Iraqi cities we passed through had major infrastructure loss and water supply loss. What condition are they in?

At least someone gets it. Of course, it's MtG.

(And I wuv you two, dumplin! )

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov




Once again, another lame attempt to smear people you disagree with by using the "Clinton Bogeyman."

Tell me, o wise one, where hast I previously voiced any support for Clinton's military actions, hmmmm?

You do a pretty good job of smearing yourself as your photo explains quite clearly. Look up your own record. I don't have time to wade through the pile at the moment.

[Japher]

Maybe if everyone in Baghdad parties really hard the remaining Iraqi soldier will give up because they would rather party than die...? That would be kwel.