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**Ted Striker** · April 7, 2003, 02:03

People say Purdue is astronaut school, though I don't know too much about that aspect, but Purdue is a solid school and they also have a solid ROTC program.

**Pekka** · April 7, 2003, 02:03

Kramerman, yeah. You know after I got out of the service, I haven't had any direction. Never know what will happen the next week, only thing I've been waiting for is the next applying time. It's frustrating, and you realize you can't do it 10 times. What if failure happens? What happens to me then? Do I just end up pumping gass to local Exxon making $5 an hour?
I've had so many downs thinking about these things, but it doesn't do any good.. we just need to look at the bright side and the GREAT feeling that comes when we get something in the right direction. I mean, if I get in couple of months, 130 kilo gimp is off my back. I try to focus on that, and not think about failing too much, since I can't take ANOTHER year of this crapola. Everytime I'm down, I think about kids in Africa or something, how bad their things are and how good it is for me, having roof over my head, being able to eat everyday, healthy, entertainment.. I bet 90% of worlds population is suffering worse. I feel better instantly

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But you know, we will succeed. They can't hold us back forever, we are too rare of a kind. Besides, this only builds us great characters. We'll be able to appreciate things, nothing is free anyway. Our day of victory will come, mark my words, it will come.. maybe not tomorrow, next month or this year, but it will come. And that day will be ours and the future from their on. We must feel the downs to be able to feel the victory better and we'll go through everything like the tanks in Baghdad right now. And after that we're also moral winners. I already imagine the moment when I'll lift that beer to my lips and say to my buddies '3 years of waiting and not knowing.. and now it's off my back!'. They can't do anything to stop us, keep the hope up.

**Ted Striker** · April 7, 2003, 02:04

But you know, we will succeed. They can't hold us back forever, we are too rare of a kind. Besides, this only builds us great characters. We'll be able to appreciate things, nothing is free anyway. Our day of victory will come, mark my words, it will come.. maybe not tomorrow, next month or this year, but it will come. And that day will be ours and the future from their on. We must feel the downs to be able to feel the victory better and we'll go through everything like the tanks in Baghdad right now. And after that we're also moral winners. I already imagine the moment when I'll lift that beer to my lips and say to my buddies '3 years of waiting and not knowing.. and now it's off my back!'. They can't do anything to stop us, keep the hope up.

Pekka is a good guy. Well said.

**Ted Striker** · April 7, 2003, 02:06

K Man you will be okay. That spirit Pekka just talked about overcomes ANYTHING.

Trust me, I've been chasing after some things for years and years, and one by one I've knocked them down. Every last one of them. I've been rejected, blocked, knocked down, taken on side excursions, but every step of the way knew that someday the end game was mine to win.

NOBODY CAN STOP ME THEY CAN ONLY HOPE TO CONTAIN ME

**MichaeltheGreat** · April 7, 2003, 02:09

Originally posted by Kramerman

I woould really hate to do military service as a grunt non-com like my father was, but im looking at all my options now. as for paying for college, my options are quite limited, so i dunno waht kind of a choice i will have.

All of the service branches have various enlisted commissioning programs, and at different times, they've had various programs where you can get TDY'd to finish college. It's worth checking out the options, since service academy graduates don't supply all of the officer requirements of the services.

I don't know about airedales, but several colleges are essentially "trade schools" for the Army - the Citadel and VMI, of course, but also Norwich and Texas A&M.

**Kramerman** · April 7, 2003, 02:17

I think about kids in Africa or something, how bad their things are and how good it is for me, having roof over my head, being able to eat everyday, healthy, entertainment.. I bet 90% of worlds population is suffering worse. I feel better instantly .

Ive thought about this too... I suppose this transcends borders, no?

Pekka is a good guy. Well said.

I second this

K Man you will be okay. That spirit Pekka just talked about overcomes ANYTHING.

Trust me, I've been chasing after some things for years and years, and one by one I've knocked them down. Every last one of them. I've been rejected, blocked, knocked down, taken on side excursions, but every step of the way knew that someday the end game was mine to win.

NOBODY CAN STOP ME THEY CAN ONLY HOPE TO CONTAIN ME

*sigh*
I know i have to just suck it up. I am a man now. I will move on, and I know i wont fail in life, i know this. I know i can still be successful, tho everything didnt go to plan. Im just disappointed that it wont turn out like i thought it would, like i hoped it would. It really smacks me into reality. But i cant help but get pissed off when i hear how people who i know are clearly underqualified in my class, get accepted to places that others i know who were qualified, were not accepted. It makes me lose confidence in the system, among other things

**Ted Striker** · April 7, 2003, 02:22

Yeah that's gotta suck bro.

Well it's the academy's loss. Some other place will benefit from having your talent on their squad.

Don't be afraid to take some time to mourn this one though, it's normal to feel the blues for a while. You don't have to suck it up, try and relax for a bit and then get back in the game.

**Kramerman** · April 7, 2003, 02:22

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

All of the service branches have various enlisted commissioning programs, and at different times, they've had various programs where you can get TDY'd to finish college. It's worth checking out the options, since service academy graduates don't supply all of the officer requirements of the services.

I don't know about airedales, but several colleges are essentially "trade schools" for the Army - the Citadel and VMI, of course, but also Norwich and Texas A&M.

I really do not want to spend a second in the military as a non com. Nothin against them, i just dont want to be hardcore military, and im uncertain of a long-term military career that would be most probably necessary for enlisting and working my way up the ranks. I did look at several schools, such as Texas A&M(my cousin and uncle went there, adn another cousin is currently attending), but i was turned off from them by one aspect or another. I guess it is partially the fault of my particularness that all my eggs practically wound up in one basket.

**Pekka** · April 7, 2003, 02:24

Kramerman, Also one important thing. I can't promise that I'll make it this time, because I don't know it's tough place to get in and only few will get in.. so I can not know for 100% that this time I'll make it. But I can promise myself that I will keep going on and try as many times as it takes, and never give up. It's comforting to know that, and you can use that to keep believing in yourself when you have hard times. Never give up, never ever do that, because that is the only thing that would make one a failure.

And it's ok to be down sometimes, as long as it won't dominate your life. You know that feeling inside of you, that eventually you will succeed? It's strong feeling because it's true! And if all fails, just get angry and build from there.. you know the attitude 'You don't let me play in your playground? Fine, I'll build my own playground then! Go ***** yourselves!'. Healthy anger..

**Drake Tungsten** · April 7, 2003, 02:25

would you mind sharing?

Check your PM's. I don't trust the rest of these heathens...

**monkspider** · April 7, 2003, 02:26

Don't Give up K-man! Join the Nintendo Fun Club!

**Kramerman** · April 7, 2003, 02:30

You don't have to suck it up, try and relax for a bit and then get back in the game.

ah, that sounds good. i pretty much stayed close to family and friends this weekend, but tried to mask my emotions... only my mom and my two best friends have any idea about whats going on in my life right now.

heres to my mother

best woman ever! Shes worked so hard to give my brother and me a decent shot... she worked her ass off to move us outa a trailor park on the south side when i was little and into one of the nicest school districts in the state (and the country, for that matter). Her hard work has made stuff possible that wouldnt have been growing up on the south side. My brother has graduated *** laude and applied to medical school, and i am going to college after all. i guess i can take pride in how far we've come, even tho if i didnt quite make it all the way, yet anyway

**Kramerman** · April 7, 2003, 02:33

Originally posted by monkspider
Don't Give up K-man! Join the Nintendo Fun Club!

Nintendo Fun Club eh? how do i join?

**Kramerman** · April 7, 2003, 02:33

Thank you for the encouragement everybody, it really means a lot.

**Pekka** · April 7, 2003, 02:35

You'll end up just fine. Talking about this helps me too. Little fighting words can do wonders in fighting morale, and we'll come out both hands wildly swinging!
Besides you're ultimately a winner. I know this because I sense from your posts that you're smart person, and smart persons won't go to waste, they'll always land on their feet. I more of survivor type, and that's why I know I'll be landing on my feet too. I know it for both of us! If you don't trust yourself, trust me

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Ok, now I'm off to bed

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