Taking it a little too far

[LoneWolf]

Resigned or whatever, she was clearly expressing the commonly held view.

[KrazyHorse]

I never said she was sorry. But she felt the need to make nice. Otherwise she might not have been on the Liberal rolls next election.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger


"Resigned" my ass.

So did Paul Martin, depending on who you believe.

It just looks better than a firing.

A public servant is not the worst of our problems. The worst of our problems are in the Commons.

And you sure as hell can fire a back bencher. The Liberals are expert at firing those who don't tow their line. It's called a quick trip out of caucus.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by LoneWolf
Resigned or whatever, she was clearly expressing the commonly held view.

Whereas your congressmen don't bother to resign. They just wallow in their own crapulence.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


A public servant is not the worst of our problems. The worst of our problems are in the Commons.

And you sure as hell can fire a back bencher. The Liberals are expert at firing those who don't tow their line. It's called a quick trip out of caucus.

And there are easier ways to bring pressure. How much do you want to bet she got an earful from the Liberal whip?

Tossing a member out would make it a pretty big deal (you have to really **** up to get this)

Like I said, if she'd remained unrepentant the Liberals would have run a new candidate in her riding next go around.

[LoneWolf]

Originally posted by Frogger


Whereas your congressmen don't bother to resign. They just wallow in their own crapulence.

And they should resign why?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger
Like I said, if she'd remained unrepentant the Liberals would have run a new candidate in her riding next go around.

She did. I saw it.

She played to the crowd in Toronto with great aplomb.

I will look forward to her not running as a Liberal next time.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by LoneWolf


And they should resign why?

Anyways, this whole story is a bit hard to believe. I mean we got some Americans going to a peewee hockey tournament and they get insulted, BUT there is no mention of any hockey parents screaming abuse. The idea that the hockey parents were the most civilized and well-behaved people there is just to far-fetched.

[KrazyHorse]

Do you really want me to dig up some of the **** that been put out by a number of them recently? Do a search on Poly if you're interested.

IIRC, the Americans here simply said that they don't represent the majority viewpoint. Which I respect. But if so, then where is the pressure to force an apology?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


She did. I saw it.

She played to the crowd in Toronto with great aplomb.

I will look forward to her not running as a Liberal next time.

She said what she had to say. Whether she believed it or not is a different question. Appearances have been satisfied.

[LoneWolf]

Originally posted by Tingkai



Anyways, this whole story is a bit hard to believe. I mean we got some Americans going to a peewee hockey tournament and they get insulted, BUT there is no mention of any hockey parents screaming abuse. The idea that the hockey parents were the most civilized and well-behaved people there is just to far-fetched.

Well, I guess this is the cleaned-up Canandian version. From what I read, the parents were appalled. Even the ref was on them.
But anyway, it was the French part of Canada, what can you expect.
But it doesn't all matter too much, it just shows what sort of thing we can expect from our "friends".

[notyoueither]

If you want principles, Frogger, go to Westminster.

If you want to witness craven behaviour, tune into our Commons. It is our own fault. We don't demand better, and we vote by parties, not on the candidates.

We have the worst of the two worlds. A parliamentary democracy based entirely on party lines. And the parties are allowed to excuse some pretty outrageous behaviour.

[LoneWolf]

Originally posted by Frogger
Do you really want me to dig up some of the **** that been put out by a number of them recently? Do a search on Poly if you're interested.

IIRC, the Americans here simply said that they don't represent the majority viewpoint. Which I respect. But if so, then where is the pressure to force an apology?

I'm assuming this is directed toward me. I wouldn't agree that that the "****" they put out does not represent the majority viewpoint. On the contrary, they know their constituents very well..

As for the Canadian soldiers killed, that was very tragic, but these things happen in war, and it is ludicrous to say anyone should be prosecuted.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by LoneWolf
Resigned or whatever, she was clearly expressing the commonly held view.

You know what? You're right. Americans are bastards. Bush is a moron.

Actually, I and most people here would only agree with one of those statements. I'll leave it to you to decide which.

Hey, buttmunch: we were there for you when you got rammed in the ass by a bunch of ****wits in an airplane. We sent our troops to Afghanistan and watched them get bombed by an idiot in an F16. We saw your President neglect to even mention the incident the next day until the issue was directly put to him in a press conference. We watched the pilots receive a get out of jail free card, despite their manifest stupidity. We saw the most protectionist president in 20 years try to **** us in the ass. We watched that same President start on unnecesary war by pissing on the graves of 3000 innocent people for political ends. We watched him bumble about like a bull in a china shop, traipsing from one screwup to another. We've watched scaremongering and hatemongering directed at us and anybody else who doesn't see eye-to-eye with the US for a year. We've seen all of this, and some of the bigger idiots among us have chosen to express their discontent through inappropriate means. They've been chastised if they were public figures, and marginalised if they weren't.

We're waiting for some civility to start trickling in from your end again.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by LoneWolf


I'm assuming this is directed toward me. I wouldn't agree that that the "****" they put out does not represent the majority viewpoint. On the contrary, they know their constituents very well..

Exactly. And that's the difference between us (so far, thankfully) and you (and to a lesser extent some Euros).

As for the Canadian soldiers killed, that was very tragic, but these things happen in war, and it is ludicrous to say anyone should be prosecuted.

Bull****. Sometimes those things happen. That doesn't excuse every incident. And the circumstances were such that a lobotomised monkey should have known not to attack.