"That's so gay" - enough to get twelve-year-olds suspended

[MrFun]

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[MrFun]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Actually, it was Humboldt, which is about 40 miles from central Lincoln. Still part of the region, though, ain't it?

I haven't heard of a murder of a gay person due to their sexual orientation here in New York happening, and if it did, it was undoubtedly a long, long time ago. Regardless, surely you wouldn't want to try and compare the level of tolerance towards homosexuality in the Lincoln metropolitan area as opposed to New York, would you?

I think that's too broad of a generalization -- just because a metropolis is generally more culturally liberal, does not mean that hate crimes do not happen.
But in comparing to smaller cities -- you're right, hate crimes are more likely to occur.

[Drake Tungsten]

Actually, it was Humboldt, which is about 40 miles from central Lincoln. Still part of the region, though, ain't it?

You've obviously never been to Humboldt. It's light years away from Lincoln, socially.

I haven't heard of a murder of a gay person due to their sexual orientation here in New York happening

Well no ****. Hate crimes in New York don't sell, so it doesn't make the papers. When the hicks out in the sticks do it, however, it's a national tragedy and you get movies made out of it. The folks back east just love to learn about the poor, backward folk in the flyover...

Regardless, surely you wouldn't want to try and compare the level of tolerance towards homosexuality in the Lincoln metropolitan area as opposed to New York, would you?

Yes I would. Do you really know anything about Lincoln? You might want to know what you're talking about before you jump to conclusions...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by MrFun


I think that's too broad of a generalization -- just because a metropolis is generally more culturally liberal, does not mean that hate crimes do not happen.
But in comparing to smaller cities -- you're right, hate crimes are more likely to occur.

Did you forget about the time when a couple of police officers rammed a night stick up a guy's ***?

We weren't specifically referring to hate crimes, but to the general tolerance of and attitude towards homosexuals in a particular region. Nobody asserted hate crimes don't happen in big, liberal cities--I did post a thread about such an incident here in NYC not too long ago. But I'm sure that not many would argue that New York and the surrounding metropolitan region has a far more tolerant attitude about homosexuality than most of the country, let alone conservative midwestern regions.

And no, I didn't forget about that, but since it was irrelevant to the topic, why bring it up? Abner Luima wasn't gay, after all.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Come on, you do it about once a thread!

Only once a thread?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


We weren't specifically referring to hate crimes, but to the general tolerance of and attitude towards homosexuals in a particular region. Nobody asserted hate crimes don't happen in big, liberal cities--I did post a thread about such an incident here in NYC not too long ago. But I'm sure that not many would argue that New York and the surrounding metropolitan region has a far more tolerant attitude about homosexuality than most of the country, let alone conservative midwestern regions.

And no, I didn't forget about that, but since it was irrelevant to the topic, why bring it up? Abner Luima wasn't gay, after all.

I'm speaking within the context of hate crimes in general, with that specific one I mentioned as an example.

And besides, how many hate crimes in New York are actually reported?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Actually, it was Humboldt, which is about 40 miles from central Lincoln. Still part of the region, though, ain't it?

You've obviously never been to Humboldt. It's light years away from Lincoln, socially.

That doesn't alter the fact that the overall culture of the region is vastly conservative.

Well no ****. Hate crimes in New York don't sell, so it doesn't make the papers. When the hicks out in the sticks do it, however, it's a national tragedy and you get movies made out of it. The folks back east just love to learn about the poor, backward folk in the flyover...

Oh bull****. As I pointed out to MrFun, not long ago I posted a thread about an attack on a gay man that was big news in all the papers here. And, like he mentioned, the Abner Luima case wasn't exactly ignored, now was it?

I love the persecution complex midwesterners seem to think the east coast has for them...

Yes I would. Do you really know anything about Lincoln? You might want to know what you're talking about before you jump to conclusions...

Ok, we'll start with laws enacted about hate crimes, municipal offering of domestic partnership benefits, gay-oriented business and events, the number of businesses offering gay-friendly programs, and work from there, shall we?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by MrFun
I'm speaking within the context of hate crimes in general, with that specific one I mentioned as an example.

And besides, how many hate crimes in New York are actually reported?

Since nobody else was speaking about hate crimes in general, and we had only mentioned gay murders, why bring it up?

The thread is about homosexuality, MrFun...I'd think you of all folks could keep your focus on that subject.

[Sava]

I love the persecution complex midwesterners seem to think the east coast has for them...

You damn liberal, east coast hippie! Stop persecuting me!

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov

I love the persecution complex midwesterners seem to think the east coast has for them...

I am assuming that's directed towards Drake, and not me, since I have no such "complex" against East Coast fellas.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Since nobody else was speaking about hate crimes in general, and we had only mentioned gay murders, why bring it up?

The thread is about homosexuality, MrFun...I'd think you of all folks could keep your focus on that subject.

This coming from a gay man who was using anti-Jewish slurs as an example in this thread about anti-gay slurs.

[Drake Tungsten]

That doesn't alter the fact that the overall culture of the region is vastly conservative.

Why are the urban areas in Nebraska strongly Democratic, then?

I love the persecution complex midwesterners seem to think the east coast has for them...

Maybe it comes from ignorant New Yorkers spouting off about things they don't understand. I love how you're trying to tell me what the culture is like here...

Ok, we'll start with laws enacted about hate crimes, municipal offering of domestic partnership benefits, gay-oriented business and events, the number of businesses offering gay-friendly programs, and work from there, shall we?

I know about these things; the point is that you don't. Don't tell me what Lincoln is like when you don't have the first damn clue.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by MrFun




I am assuming that's directed towards Drake, and not me, since I have no such "complex" against East Coast fellas.

Considering I was quoting Drake...

This coming from a gay man who was using anti-Jewish slurs as an example in this thread about anti-gay slurs.

Which was completely different than your bring up hate crimes in general for some unknown reason when we were specifically talking about gay murders.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

That doesn't alter the fact that the overall culture of the region is vastly conservative.

Why are the urban areas in Nebraska strongly Democratic, then?

Urban areas don't constitute an entire region, dufus. Pockets of liberalness are everywhere, even in conservative regions. Are you trying to say Nebraska isn't an overwhelmingly conservative area?

Maybe it comes from ignorant New Yorkers spouting off about things they don't understand. I love how you're trying to tell me what the culture is like here...

More likely it comes from bristling at the notion your **** stinks as much as anyone else's, I'd say.

I know about these things; the point is that you don't. Don't tell me what Lincoln is like when you don't have the first damn clue.

Oh? Considering how easy it is for me to look up whether or not Lincoln has any of those things, and you didn't bother to even try to assert they did, I'd say I might just have more of a clue about it than you. Somehow I doubt you are well-versed on Lincoln's policies regarding gays, considering it is (I imagine) not a subject you're particularly passionate about.

[Boris Godunov]

ANYhoo, now that the requisite trolling is done and the original point of the thread is demolished, it must be time for us to go to bed!