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  • #31
    My best guess is that the original members of the ECSC constitue "Old Europe": France, Germany, Italy, and Benelux.

    Regardless, Rumsfeld is an idiot. I am far to the right of American Politics and think that he is terrible for the country. I especially hate how he simply dismisses the German Heritage of a huge population of the U.S. (between 25%-33%), and the crucial role that France palyed in our independence. America is the extenion of "Old Europe". Its heritage is our heritage, and I am appalled by how easily most Americans forget that.
    Last edited by nationalist; March 25, 2003, 17:57.
    "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Maniac
      Didn't Spain support the American independence as well??
      Yes. I think Spain joined the Franco-American alliance in 1780. Not entirely sureabout the date though.
      "The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796

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      • #33
        Originally posted by nationalist
        My best guess is that the original members of the ECSC: France, Germany, Italy, and Benelux.

        Regardless, Rumsfeld is an idiot. I am far to the right of American Politics and think that he is terrible for the country. I especially hate how he simply dismisses the German Heritage of a huge population of the U.S. (between 25%-33%), and the crucial role that France palyed in our independence. America is the extenion of "Old Europe". Its heritage is our heritage, and I am appalled by how easily most Americans forget that.
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        • #34
          Old Europe = Eurocoms

          Primary led by France and recenlty joined by Germany. Bolstered by support from Benelux, Switzerland, and Austria.

          Spain, Italy, and UK and not part of Eurocomland.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #35
            Little something I whipped up...



            [IMG]C:\WINDOWS\desktop\Jason\busheurope.jpg[/IMG]

            Hope that fixed it.
            Last edited by Guynemer; March 26, 2003, 00:29.
            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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            • #36
              Doh! For some reason, "$*#@ing Poly" got erased... supposed to be on Greece...
              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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              • #37
                damn

                I was anxiously awaiting.

                Can you get it back?
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #38
                  You mocking me, Striker?

                  You're not above being replaced with a blow-up balloon pilot, you know.
                  "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                  "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                  • #39


                    Nah I was with you dog. I wanted to see it.
                    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • #40
                      Put it back dog!!!
                      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                      • #41
                        There ya go, dog. Can I get a pimpin' smiley for my pains?
                        "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                        "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                        • #42
                          I can't see it.
                          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                          • #43
                            You still the man though.
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                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ted Striker

                              I can't see it.
                              Huh? It's right there, just to the SW of Greece... should be on the old map now, I can see it.

                              You still the man though.
                              Damn right.

                              [IMG]C:\WINDOWS\desktop\Jason\pimp.gif[/IMG]

                              Solid.
                              "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                              "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                              • #45
                                Not a thing. Did you mess up again?
                                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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