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  • #31
    Originally posted by MRT144
    the only way we fight china is in the C&C: Generals realm
    Or Civ3 of course!
    I love PEPSI! (twitching and shivering profusely)

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    • #32
      but i prefer games that racially stereotype my friends
      "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
      'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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      • #33
        what willem said

        see willem, I can agree with you
        You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Flubber
          what willem said

          see willem, I can agree with you
          I never doubted it for a moment. You are a Canadian after all, we're the masters of compromise! Well except for Asher maybe.

          PS But then, what can you expect from an Albertan?

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          • #35
            didnt you hear willem, asher is using linux on an AMD now
            "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
            'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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            • #36
              China executes more people than the rest of the world combined, and that includes Texas.
              someone please do a comparison of the population of china and the rest of the world...

              btw, did you know that china has more population than the whole "coalition of the willing and the hiding"(the willing are the ones that are announced, the hiding are the ones that have not been announced)?

              btw(2), check the latest imarton news, the chinese are making great scientific advances!
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              • #37
                Originally posted by MarkG
                btw(2), check the latest imarton news, the chinese are making great scientific advances!
                Cool. Maybe we should get them to work on the email spam problem.

                PS If we could tie that into a call display system, we could give telemarketers a taste of their own medicine.
                Last edited by Willem; March 24, 2003, 16:45.

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                • #38
                  There is no way the US could seriously invade China.

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                  • #39
                    Damn, wrong button again!

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                    • #40
                      I read the novel "Invasion" by Eric L. Harry a couple of years ago. There it is the other way around and US is invaded by China. The scene is perhaps 10-20 years from now, when the technology evolution ironically has made tanks, warplanes and ICBMs obsolete. The anti-missile defence of both sides eliminate the threath of ICBMs, while cheap, shoulder-fire missiles carried by every grunt can take out tanks and aircraft even beyond the horizon. So, basically the fighting is back to WW1-style but with better rifles.

                      Pure fiction, but an amazing future prediction.
                      So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                      Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                      • #41
                        sounds interesting.

                        and yes technology could make those things obsolete.

                        Esp. if those EMP burst devices could be provided to every soldier. Imagine just using a targetted electromagnetic pulse that disables tanks, planes, and missiles at will. Although tanks may be able to use shielding to protect them from that. Planes and missiles might be too heavy with shielding.

                        but imagine what other electronic warfare capability will be developed in the future. That could make those things obsolete. Then we'd have to go back to using non-electronic dummy bombs and artillery. It would send us back to WW1 indeed.

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                        • #42
                          As the Sicilian said in the princes bride: "never get involved in a Land war in Asia (east asia, ME dount count for the nitpicky)
                          If you don't like reality, change it! me
                          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre
                            I read the novel "Invasion" by Eric L. Harry a couple of years ago. There it is the other way around and US is invaded by China. The scene is perhaps 10-20 years from now, when the technology evolution ironically has made tanks, warplanes and ICBMs obsolete. The anti-missile defence of both sides eliminate the threath of ICBMs, while cheap, shoulder-fire missiles carried by every grunt can take out tanks and aircraft even beyond the horizon. So, basically the fighting is back to WW1-style but with better rifles.

                            Pure fiction, but an amazing future prediction.
                            Hopefully in twenty years, economic integration will make it unprofitable for the U.S. to wage war on China (or vice versa). If that scenario takes place then the world is in for some major $hit.

                            ---

                            As for the initial speculation in the thread that the U.S. will invade China -- uh, this is not a civ game, you know. A nuclear war in the real world will result in economic collapse, climate changes, and other things that might end human civilization.

                            In fact, I'd be surprised if America invades even, say, Iran. With the current diplomatic mess they'd want to cut losses and allow the sentiments to die down.
                            Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroff

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by SlowwHand
                              Short people suck.
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                              • #45
                                I have to say that I think it would be folly to dismiss the technology and training of the Chinese military as trivial. While they are not the most advanced military in the world (or even the region, for that matter), their technology is sufficient for causing any invading force serious problems given their numbers. As far as I know, they have the most recent Soviet gear, as well as some of their own little surprises.
                                "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                                "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                                "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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