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  • The Miscalculations of Yes-Men
    By William Rivers Pitt
    t r u t h o u t | Perspective
    Monday 31 March 2003
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    This is what the highest members of the administration, as well as opinion-makers favorable to the war, were saying about the ease with which we would take Iraq:

    • Vice President **** Cheney, in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" on March 16th, said, "The read we get on the people of Iraq is there is no question but that they want to get rid of Saddam Hussein and they will welcome as liberators the United States when we come to do that."

    • In an opinion piece for the Washington Post published February 13, 2002, former U.N. ambassador Ken Adelman said, "I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk. Let me give simple, responsible reasons: (1) It was a cakewalk last time; (2) they've become much weaker; (3) we've become much stronger; and (4) now we're playing for keeps."

    • Christopher Hitchens, writer for Vanity Fair said on January 28, 2003, "This will be no war -- there will be a fairly brief and ruthless military intervention. The president will give an order. It will be rapid, accurate and dazzling ... It will be greeted by the majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring it on."

    • Richard Perle, chairman of the powerful Defense Policy Board until his recent resignation amid accusations of financial conflicts of interest, said in a July 11, 2002 PBS interview, "Saddam is much weaker than we think he is. He's weaker militarily. We know he's got about a third of what he had in 1991. But it's a house of cards. He rules by fear because he knows there is no underlying support. Support for Saddam, including within his military organization, will collapse at the first whiff of gunpowder." This is the same Richard Perle who told David Corn in May of 2002 that Iraq could be taken with a light force of 40,000 American troops. "We don't need anyone else," he said.

    ...Kitner's story describes a bus coming under fire from a Marine gunner because they feared it was filled with Iraqi gunmen. A survey of the bus after the shooting stopped revealed a number of dead civilians.
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    bleh

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    • Secretary of State Colin Powell says Iran must stop its drive for weapons of mass destruction and Syria must end its support for terrorism.

      In a strongly worded speech to a pro-Israel lobby, Powell bracketed Iran and Syria with Iraq as promoters of terrorism and suggested they faced grave consequences.

      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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      • ned:
        The flamewar that have delivered themselves for a few days Damas and Washington became extensive by the declaration of a spokesman of the Syrian ministry of the Foreign Affairs which affirmed Monday that Syria decided to support the Iraqi people against what it qualifies "illegal invasion américano-British".
        "Syria chose to place at the sides of the Iraqi people brother who faces an invasion illegal and unjustified and against which all kinds of crimes against humanity are made" declared the spokesman,
        bleh

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        • cronos, what does the syrian statement mean? Have they declared war?
          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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          • Ned: .... This is not a war declaration, explicitly. I think Syria will give Weapon to Iraq or/and keep the frontier open to fighter who wants to fights in Iraq.

            But I will search for more information about that!
            bleh

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            • US troops kill seven women and children in a car that refuses to stop near Najaf.
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              BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service
              bleh

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              • Edited by Ming...

                This thread is for NEWS items only... Include a source, link or text in English.

                Put your commentary, or OPINIONS in any of the OTHER many threads on the subject.

                And if you violate this rule again MOBIUS, you will be restricted.
                Last edited by Ming; March 31, 2003, 18:38.
                Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                • La Syrie choisit de soutenir l'Irak

                  La Syrie «a choisi» de soutenir le peuple irakien contre «l'invasion» américano-britannique en Irak, a déclaré aujourd'hui un porte-parole du ministère des Affaires étrangères syrien en réponse à des déclarations du secrétaire d'Etat américain Colin Powell.

                  «La Syrie a choisi de se placer aux côtés du peuple irakien frère qui fait face à une invasion illégale et injustifiée et contre lequel sont commises toutes sortes de crimes contre l'humanité», a affirmé ce porte-parole syrien.

                  Le secrétaire d'Etat américain Colin Powell avait sommé dimanche soir la Syrie de s'abstenir de soutenir l'Irak.

                  «La Syrie peut continuer à soutenir directement les groupes terroristes et le régime à l'agonie de Saddam Hussein, ou elle peut s'engager sur une voie différente et plus porteuse d'espoir», avait-il dit.

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                  here the translation:
                  Syria " chose " to support the Iraqi people against " the American-British "invasion " in Iraq, declared today a spokesman of the Syrian Foreign Ministry in answer to statements of the American State Secretary Colin Powell. "
                  Syria chose to take place beside the Iraqi people brother who faces an illegal and inequitable invasion and against which are committed any sorts of crimes against humanity ", asserted this Syrian spokesman.
                  The American State Secretary Colin Powell had summoned on Sunday evening Syria to refrain from supporting Iraq. " Syria can continue to support directly the terrorist groups and the regime in Saddam Hussein's agony, or it can undertake on a more strong and different way of hope ", he had said.
                  bleh

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                  • Geraldo Rivera expelled! for revealing future ops plan.



                    I saw Rivera's report for which he was expelled. He drew Najaf on a map, and showed that three brigages of the 101st would surround the city on three sides - to the North, West and South - and then move in. I also suspect that the fact that the East across the Euphrates was open, was intended to be kept a secret.

                    Too bad. I found Rivera's reports to be quite entertaining.
                    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                    • Here is CNN link on the Syrian statement.

                      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                      • Hmmm, I could've sworn I posted this News item earlier...

                        US losing Battle of Iraqi Hearts and Minds by hosing down Women and Children...
                        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                        • 02. 40 (French timing zone) Le Monde:
                          Explosion close to the embassy from Great Britain in Teheran. A car struck Monday evening the wall of Great Britain's embassy in Teheran, took fire and exploded, killing its driver, without making other victims. http://www.lemonde.fr/sequence/0,5987,3462---,00.html

                          21:00 (Chilean timing zone) TVN News:
                          London - British soldiers refuse to attack civilians.
                          Hard controversial in Great Britain due to the refusing of two soldiers to fight against innocent civilians. Both british soldiers were repatriated after the refusing.


                          Athens, Greece: Arab League: "the day that Baghdad falls, the 'real' war will begin".
                          The Secretary General of the organization said that the postwar period will be bloody for all the region.

                          TVN News.

                          Syria: the new target.
                          While Syria ratified his endorsement to Sadam Hussein, the U.S.A. blamed this country and Iran to help Baghdad and to support to terrorism.
                          Information of last minute indicate the mobilization of great amount of Syrian troops to the border. Iran puts on the red alert to his Armed Forces.

                          TVN News
                          >>> El cine se lee en dvdplay <<<

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                          • Two British soldiers sent home for refusing to fight
                            April 1 2003, 6:13 AM

                            Two British soldiers have been sent home from Iraq for refusing to fight in the US-led war and could now face a court martial, a spokesman for their lawyer said today.
                            The spokesman said the two soldiers had told their commanding officers they did not want to fight in a war "involving the death of innocent civilians".
                            The defence ministry in London would not confirm the spokesman's comments.
                            Meanwhile, the lawyer did not wish to be named for fear of identifying his clients.
                            According to reports in the British press, the two returning soldiers belong to the 16 Air Assault Brigade, currently involved in operations in southern Iraq.
                            AFP
                            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                            • "When about 1,000 residents tried to flee Basra to find food on Friday, Iraqi paramilitary forces fired on them with mortars and machine guns, British military said."

                              www.summitdaily.com 29/03 p.A33

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                              • Originally posted by MOBIUS
                                Hmmm, I could've sworn I posted this News item earlier...

                                US losing Battle of Iraqi Hearts and Minds by hosing down Women and Children...
                                Morbius, the title of the article you linked reads:

                                "Civilians killed at coalition checkpoint."
                                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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