How crap are helicopter gun ships?

[Dis]

what did paiktis22 say? I missed it.

The problem is all those ships in the gulf I'm sure.

Each navy ship (with aircraft) has its own aircraft controllers. AC rating I believe. I'm not exactly sure how they coordinate it with so many ships. I'm guessing one ship takes on all aircraft coordination between ships. But that isn't going to include the British as they are another nation's military. You can see how mistakes are made because of it.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Sea Kings have been around a while. Then again, they have a job to do, and they do it effectively. It's tried and tested technology- the fact that two were crashed into each other is scarcely an indictment on their reliability.

As far as reliability goes, they're a step up from Chinooks.

One just crashed on take off into our Destroyer.

We want a refund!

[CerberusIV]

The UK Sea Kings have been upgraded and refitted several times but have basically reached the end of their lives. They are being replaced by EH101's.

With the best will in the world helicopters just fall out of the sky sometimes. Various types are used for supply and crew runs from the UK to the oil rigs in the N Sea and every now and then one goes splash. Under combat conditions with pressure to keep them flying rather than in the hangar undergoing maintenance and with crews flying repeated missions mistakes and accidents will happen.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Asher
"Gun ships"? WTF?

In what perverse world are Sea Kings and Sea Knights "gun ships"

Artistic licence. It sounded better in the title of the thread than "How crap are helicopters?".

[Az]

Carver: I thought that the Ka-52(?) is better.

[*End Is Forever*]

"The Dangers Of Wartime Flying" (BBC News Online Article)

[Ozz]

Originally posted by notyoueither Source?

The library,

Read any airforce history they lose more men and planes
to weather, mechanical failure and training accidents than enemy action.

The last book i read which spelled this out clearly was
"Mohawks over Burma"

[Alinestra Covelia]

But... that's... just not right!!!

I mean whenever I boot up Alpha Centauri and load up on Chaos Nerve Gas Choppers, they always go right through the enemy like cabbage soup through a grandmother.

Maybe Saddam sent Probe Teams into London to alter the UK's version of the alphax.txt file to make their helicopters crap.

[Gibsie]

It's pretty obvious, they just failed to get back to base by the end of the turn which dealt the squadron 30% damage.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Dissident
what did paiktis22 say? I missed it.

The problem is all those ships in the gulf I'm sure.

If you read it, it sound like he was happy that the two British Chopper when down with lost of life.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Sea Kings have been around a while. Then again, they have a job to do, and they do it effectively. It's tried and tested technology- the fact that two were crashed into each other is scarcely an indictment on their reliability.

As far as reliability goes, they're a step up from Chinooks.

The Chinooks have had their problems for sure, but the Sea King has been around since 1959. Even if you build one today, you are using 1950s technology. Yes they need to be replace with newer designs.

[Carver]

Originally posted by Azazel
Carver: I thought that the Ka-52(?) is better.

Technologically, I think it is, but no one has ordered the Ka-50/52 yet. The Mi-28 has at least been purchased in small numbers by the Russian AF; I think they were using two of them in Chechnya.

[Midshipman]

Well, if you want to know about helos, I am probably the guy to ask. Seeing as I work on them. So, here is a quick breakdown on all the helos in action:

46/47: The Chinooks and Sea Knights. Also known as flying bannanna and flying coffin. Old helos with dual main rotors, used for cargo, VOD and troop insertion

3 Sea King- Older helo, single rotor. Primary uses are cargo, VOD and SAR.

60 - Main helo, used for troop insertions, transport, VOD

53 - Heavy lift helo, most powerful in the world. Can carry up to 55 troops with machine guns on ramp and doors. Also used for VOD and cargo.

64 - Apache attack helicopter

58 - Kiowa scout helicopter.

Any questions?

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Midshipman
46/47: The Chinooks (...). Also known as flying bannanna (...)

Btw, the Brits will also use Lynx and Puma helis.

[CerberusIV]

Don't the US marines still use Cobras?