What is Germany's hidden agenda?

[Lincoln]

Interesting enough, most Americans do not despise Germany for being opposed to war like they do France. I for one respect the position of Germany in light of their past history. France is another story but I think the anti-french fervor is childish. I have come to accept the idea that Europe in general is way to the left of reality so let them live in a dream world if they choose.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Dissident
I still mentioned the South in the U.S. civil war. The south was hit hard by the war, especially with Sherman's march.

Yet the South was an is very pro-war.

I just don't believe that argument for the reason germany is the way that it is.

The Civil War was 140 years ago, WWII survivors are still around.

Plus, the South didn't undergo near the devastation that German cities did, nor a process akin to De-Nazification that happened in Germany. Lincoln had advocated a policy of reconciliation, and that was greatly the case. This allowed the Southerners to maintain pride in their war effort and create the myth of the "Lost Cause." Thus the war became a badge of honor.

There was also no issue of a Holocaust to contend with.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by BeBro


Stop the threadjacking

This is about germany´s hidden agenda! I expect some great conspiracy theories...

Shhh...

They saved Hilter's Brain

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Lincoln
Interesting enough, most Americans do not despise Germany for being opposed to war like they do France. I for one respect the position of Germany in light of their past history. France is another story but I think the anti-french fervor is childish. I have come to accept the idea that Europe in general is way to the left of reality so let them live in a dream world if they choose.

I think this is largely because Germany was really powerless to hinder it, since they don't have a veto power on the UNSC, like France does. France also has to contend with the constant francophobia in the U.S. and U.K. that existed well before this. When a country is already the butt of so many jokes, it's easy to make them a target of scorn when they take such a position against you.

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Ozz


Shhh...

They saved Hilter's Brain

[DanielXY]

Exactly BeBro

Nono, we honestly dont know what you are talking about

[Kramerman]

[kolpo]

"All I can says, is that with Germany and France in bed together, Belgium better watch is hat, its coat, and its ass."

Belgium has actually the same point of view as France and Germany, our relations with them are currently extremely good and even if they would attack would Britain help us like they have always done.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by DanielXY
Exactly BeBro

Nono, we honestly dont know what you are talking about

Right, is this you? You see nothing, you hear nothing
you know nothing.

[Ozz]

The Two Master Race, Master minds with the brainless
American awaitin' Der Fufher's brain.

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


I think this is largely because Germany was really powerless to hinder it, since they don't have a veto power on the UNSC, like France does. France also has to contend with the constant francophobia in the U.S. and U.K. that existed well before this. When a country is already the butt of so many jokes, it's easy to make them a target of scorn when they take such a position against you.

My father fought in ww2 and he has nothing but good to say about France. He was stationed there for a few years and he was befriended by a French family. I think it is unfortunate that we will end up enemies before this is over. If the US wants to be a sovereign nation then so is France. People need to grow up. BTW, according to my dad France has always resented the US bombing of their country to drive out the Nazis. He said the Germans left but the French stayed inspite of the warnings by leaflets and many were killed.

[Spiffor]

AFAIK, this resentment exists only in the very populations that got bombed. True, other people know about it, and think it would have been better without. But the only person I know who has been really complaining about the bombings is a friend from Normandy, in which many historical buildings got destroyed.
(Rebuilt Normandy cities are ugly btw)

[Lincoln]

My dad spent a lot of time in Lehavre.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lincoln
My dad spent a lot of time in Lehavre.

That may explain it : Le Havre was among the most bombed French cities in WW2. AFAIK (it's hearsay, I never went there), there is nearly no building older than the war there, meaning the whole city was razed.It is normal its inhabitants have resentment for this.

[Ozz]

Originally posted by Spiffor
It is normal its inhabitants have resentment for this.

That is just stupid, Blame the Nazis

That like my dad and uncles resenting the french for
having to do D-day cause they got invaded. They blame the Nazis.

edit: clarity