Have you been "Shocked and Awed"?

[Frozzy]

For me? Last night was getting there, but I still haven't seen the full might of the American and British military.

[GePap]

We will not see the full might of the U or Uk military: the ful might would kill lots of people and created a diplomatic backlash agains the US and UK.

The attacks are impressive, but since they are os targeted, the extent of the destruction is limited (which is the plan. we have to rebuild anything we break). Again, this aint Grozny and we aint the Ruskies.

[Drake Tungsten]

I agree completely with GePap.

BTW, I'm "shocked and awed" by what I just said...

[Lord Merciless]

You never want to see that US has to unleash its full might.

[Verto]

They have said the 'shock and awe' part hasn't happened yet.

[GePap]

The shock and awe part begun tonight, at least according to FOX, who was blaring this before any bombing or Baghdad for the night had begun.

[Verto]

Really? I was under the assumption it wouldn't occur until tomorrow, at the earliest.

[Bereta_Eder]

another poster wrote:

Why I hate the war:
It means that in every place on the web I end up reading posts by clearly insane, mouth-foaming Americans gloating in their wholescale genocide of the iraqui populace, which means I have to be angry all the time. It's really annoying.

still applicable

[Urban Ranger]

Well written.

My question is: how many Iraqi civilians have been killed in the war by the US/UK attack so far?

[General Ludd]

I've been shocked, but there is certainly nothing to be in awe about

[DRoseDARs]

UR, last I heard: One confirmed dead...and he was Jordanian. From that first missile targetting Saddam himself, I believe.

[Spiffor]

Weren't you in awe from the kewl pyrotechnics ? I thought it was the very purpose of the live footage !

[Spiffor]

Drosedars : from what I've seen in the News thread, there has also been a dead driving a bus between Iraq and Palestine. And Agathon talked about the destroyed civilian vehicles shown on BBC.

[Asher]

Originally posted by paiktis22


another poster wrote:

still applicable

yet another poster wrote:

Funny, everywhere I go on the web I find clearly insane, mouth-foaming anti-war people writing articles like ‘Calling a Spade a Spade: American Fascism’, which means I have to be in a constant state of mild amusement. I just want it to stop.

which is also still applicable.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Drosedars : from what I've seen in the News thread, there has also been a dead driving a bus between Iraq and Palestine. And Agathon talked about the destroyed civilian vehicles shown on BBC.

And the row of dead civilians lying next to them.

Can I say a few things to people who are perhaps too young to remember GW1.

1) Don't believe what officials tell you. Their mission is to give the most favourable impression of events that they can - they will do this with no respect for the truth (it's their job). This means not mentioning civilian casualties and overstating successes. Last time they told us the Patriots were working (they weren't). Then they told us that they'd destroyed SCUDS (they were tanker trucks). Then they told us that collateral damage had been minimalised by "smart" weapons (yeah right?). We didn't see pictures of the masscre on the road out of Kuwait until much later.

2) Don't believe what the news tells you - the fog of war is just that. And the embedded newspeople are effectively controlled by the military.

3) If they aren't talking about something - it's probably not going as well as they hoped.