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The more I hear of the case, the more I can't help but feel that they're just taking the fall for screw-ups higher up.
Same. I don't think they did anything really wrong, but I think the higher ups should be held to answer for this.
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Same. I don't think they did anything really wrong, but I think the higher ups should be held to answer for this.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Will that work for a drunk driver?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Might have had something to do with them being high as a kite.
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Wouldn't be the first time, I trust the Pentagon as much as Congress. I remember what they did to Clayton Hartwig after the #2 turret on the Iowa blew up...The more I hear of the case, the more I can't help but feel that they're just taking the fall for screw-ups higher up.Comment
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It might if the cops tell the guy to drink up before getting on the road or he'll get in trouble.Originally posted by notyoueither
Will that work for a drunk driver?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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So, Tingkai was right a long time ago when he said the fault was with the establishment of the United States military.(\__/)
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Oh God, we haven't gotten over this yet?
It was war, sh*t happens, friendly fire happens, don't charge the people with murder.
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While I don't think there's a point in faulting the pilots themselves, I certainly do think there's a problem with the USAF pumping their pilots full of speed. When people die unnecessarily because of that, there's a bit of a problem.It was war, sh*t happens, friendly fire happens, don't charge the people with murder."I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?" -Frank Zappa
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Okay, but I don't see what the hell that has to do with charging the pilots with murder.Originally posted by cinch
While I don't think there's a point in faulting the pilots themselves, I certainly do think there's a problem with the USAF pumping their pilots full of speed. When people die unnecessarily because of that, there's a bit of a problem.
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What I don't understand is the process. I thought the hearing was like a prelim where the court decides if there is enough evidence to warrant a trial. This ended up being a trial of innocence and guilt.
Can anyone explain the process?Golfing since 67Comment
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Yeah, that's true. I didn't mean to imply otherwise in my post... Didn't think I did.Okay, but I don't see what the hell that has to do with charging the pilots with murder.
I wasn't trying to contradict your post... Just using it as a building block type of thing to say that, even though it was war and "**** happens", the USAF could possibly be held responsible."I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?" -Frank Zappa
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My God, did you know the Germans were giving their soldiers speed during the blitzkrieg and we were giving our pilots the same stuff? Speed didn't cause the tragedy, mis-communication about who or what was supposed to be on the ground in that area was the cause from what I know. The only problem with speed is staying awake for hours on end, that's when the lack of sleep can cause slight hallucinations. It is ironic that the Pentagon gives pilots that drug but puts truckers in jail for using it to prevent falling asleep at the wheel.While I don't think there's a point in faulting the pilots themselves, I certainly do think there's a problem with the USAF pumping their pilots full of speed. When people die unnecessarily because of that, there's a bit of a problem.Comment
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Truckers kill voters. Pilots kill allies.
Sorry, couldn't resist.(\__/)
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What I don't understand is the process. I thought the hearing was like a prelim where the court decides if there is enough evidence to warrant a trial. This ended up being a trial of innocence and guilt.
No it didn't. The trial was dismissed and sent to a non-judicial proceeding. That isn't a determinaton of innocence and guilt.
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That happens whether the trucker or pilot is "sober" or not, maybe sobriety should be illegal.Truckers kill voters. Pilots kill allies.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
But in the first case, voters kill truckers and voters by outlawing a drug that keeps truckers wide awake on the road. I know, I used to drive for a living...
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Truckers kill themselves and voters by driving longer than the law allows and falsifing records to cover it up as well.Originally posted by Berzerker
But in the first case, voters kill truckers and voters by outlawing a drug that keeps truckers wide awake on the road.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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