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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Chile is a well known agressor. Why should I believe the lies of a nation that still occupies land stolen from Peru and Bolivia during the War of the Pacific? It's quite obvious that Chile wants to break down the international system of laws so that they can continue their aggressive wars of conquest!
yeah the Bolivians call us "the Southamerican Israel"
But what can I say.. we have never lie about it. We fought the Pacific War after that both countries declare war on us and we proudly won. As you keep Puerto Rico, the former Mexican land and some other countries in the history of mankind we did the same.
Anyway is hard to compare. I'm not sure but.. I believe.. that... I'm really not sure but in 1879 I believe that the UN didn't exist.
Question: was that THING on Iraqi TV saddam hussein or a really poor impersonator? Because if it is, saddam has really bad glasses and needs a liposuction... he's let himself go!
Your pessimism is noted. Good thing it is not certain.
The UN has survived many military actions not sanctioned by the UN in the past. Almost all of them, in fact. Nothing indicates that the same is not true now.
But never like this. Never has the Security Council seen itself so totally useless and voiceless against the actions of one country. The US simply leapfrogged them with absolutely no regard to multilateralism. Diplomats in NY are probably drowning their anger with alcohol at this time.
IMO this is the gravest thing to ever happen to the UN.
A true ally stabs you in the front.
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Originally posted by DarthVeda
Question: was that THING on Iraqi TV saddam hussein or a really poor impersonator? Because if it is, saddam has really bad glasses and needs a liposuction... he's let himself go!
And really old. He was not Saddam... maybe his grand father
Your pessimism is noted. Good thing it is not certain.
The UN has survived many military actions not sanctioned by the UN in the past. Almost all of them, in fact. Nothing indicates that the same is not true now.
I guess some things do, indicate.
First such thing was Yugoslavia. After collapse of SU, world has changed. Some changes happaned in American foreign policy. Now, Yanks consider they can do everything they want and no one will stop them.
Great aproach.
yeah the Bolivians call us "the Southamerican Israel"
Wars of aggression aren't funny...
First time that we agree.. and I believe that the iraqi people think the same right now.
anyway the Pacific War was a "war of aggression" but from the peruvian and bolivian point of view. We were defending ourselves. And the region that we took was called "despoblado de Atacama" something like "unhabited zone of Atacama".
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Master Zen. Hmmm. Well, I think you missed the Cold War. Many things have happened at the UN. It is not the crucible of power that some seem to assume it is.
It is a forum for nations. That is all. Yes, it is nice when everyone can agree and all move in the same direction, but that hasn't happened very often. Not even when millions were hacking each other to death and the UN dithered.
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Originally posted by DarthVeda
Question: was that THING on Iraqi TV saddam hussein or a really poor impersonator? Because if it is, saddam has really bad glasses and needs a liposuction... he's let himself go!
I just hope his (great-grand?)sons don't survive for long...those guys are just about as wacko as Saddam is/was....and a reason to continue all these bloody military operations.
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