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Even if everyone was in good relations to each other, kissing and hugging, they'd still all spy on each other. It doesn't necessarily mean anything bad blooded, it's just what everyone does..
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In da butt.
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The State Dpt thing.Originally posted by DanS
It seems possible that Russia could also be the culprit (is that what you were saying, Roland, or were you talking about the State Dept bugging?).
About the EU's security, AFAIK they're quite sloppy about it. For the EUMC and PSC they had to heavily adapt some building to provide some security from bugging.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Bugs? Call TerminexBugs have been discovered at EU offices used by the French and Germans !Comment
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I have to agree that it is someone outside the normal circle someone who does nt have the satelites and interception gear that the US uses (bugs are obsolete if you know about jamming ) its like finding a stabbing victim and accusing that guy over there with the machine gun of murder. Well maybe he has a knife too! but he'd have to have a circumstance that made it the optimal meansThe world is a messy place, and unfortunately the messier it gets, the more work we have to do."Comment
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Interesting. This all leads me to believe it is Microsoft. They have history with bugs!Comment
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DanS - Americans spied on Israel too. We even accidentally (or not) bombed a ship of yours that did just that during 1967.
And anyhoo, you should be thankfull we spy on you and everything else. From what I read, Israel has at times provided the US with info such as top secret politburo protocols.
Also, from what I read, instead of being tied up by beurocracy and political contests, the Israelis actually followed arab terrorists in the USA quite closely, and according to what I read, have even tried to warn the US , several times about something big happennind in September.Comment
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So the jews knew!!! Just what the anti-semites wnated to hear, and from Siro....Originally posted by Sirotnikov
DanS - Americans spied on Israel too. We even accidentally (or not) bombed a ship of yours that did just that during 1967.
And anyhoo, you should be thankfull we spy on you and everything else. From what I read, Israel has at times provided the US with info such as top secret politburo protocols.
Also, from what I read, instead of being tied up by beurocracy and political contests, the Israelis actually followed arab terrorists in the USA quite closely, and according to what I read, have even tried to warn the US , several times about something big happennind in September.
The problem Siro is that it seems your intellifgence services were more riddled with soviet spies than the US's, and thw POllard case was very damaging. Besides, with all the free info and money we give Israel, whats the deal? Ha Man?If you don't like reality, change it! me
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The US, obviously. Could you seriously suspect anybody else?
Let's hope that the EU puts a bit more effort in anti-spy work after this.Comment
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Yup.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
If it were us, do you think they'd have found the bugs?
If you are talking about crypto, NSA is probably the best. CIA, on the other hand, isn't quite so hot.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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The CIA is the most dumbest Intelligence serive around . The CIA planned and try to carry out the Bay of Pig Fiaso in Cuba when Kenndry was president. The CIA show the plan
to Ike when Ike was president an Ike threw then out of the White House saying this supid plan of your will never work.
Ike planed D-Day in world war II.By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.Comment
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It was me, but I plead guilty...with an explanation. You see, I just couldn't get to sleep. I tried drugs, hypnosis, everything, but nothing worked until I discovered the soothing tones of a massive bureacracy inaction. It probably saved my life!He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
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Holy crap. That would be so much easier by just reading the EU's official journal online....“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Not to mention a lot less expensive. Do they have streaming audio? It's the droning on and on that gets me drowsy.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Holy crap. That would be so much easier by just reading the EU's official journal online....He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!Comment
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Investigators believe those bugs has been in place since the buildings were constructed almost 10 years ago. But they are state-of-the art devices, so it has to be a very advanced agency.So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
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This could be a numer of countries, but when I read the article the time the US attempted to bug the private plane of the leader of China and were caught sprung to mind...
Though it could also have been Britain, Russia or France...Comment
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