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  • #31
    Why? Everyone knows (or at least assumes) The US is spying on european governments, companies, and of course the EU.
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    • #32
      If its another european nation, then lets hope they weren't stupid enough not to bug themselves !! or maybe they weren't ??
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      • #33
        Because of what I said.

        Everyone spies on everyone, during a war though you shouldn't be stupid enough to get caught spying on your closest ally
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        • #34
          I think it's the Andorran Evil Secret Service
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          • #35
            OliverFa :
            I rather believe it was the pope's spec ops
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            • #36
              Originally posted by TheStinger
              Everyone spies on everyone, during a war though you shouldn't be stupid enough to get caught spying on your closest ally
              It's never effected our relationship with Israel and France.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by DinoDoc

                It's never effected our relationship with Israel and France.
                It would go down like a lead balloon over here
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                • #38
                  This reminds me of the bugs found in the State Department a couple of years ago. Don't think the retaliation amounted to anything, since I can't even remember who did it.

                  Yeh, we prosecute Israeli spies more than anybody else, nowadays.
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                  • #39
                    I think it was the Russians.
                    “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                    • #40
                      It was the Spanish Inquisition.
                      Blah

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                      • #41
                        I would have thought that spying on allies is restricted to commercial stuff. I would guess that military stuff is shared anyway. If a CIA/MI6 agent spied on a friendly government when it is cleraly going to embarrass everyone it would be hushed up.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                          Why? Everyone knows (or at least assumes) The US is spying on european governments
                          And vice versa.
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                          • #43
                            So whaaaaaaaat?! Why would it not be the US? They have every reason to bug phones. To get that info what the French etc are up to. And for other purposes too. I'm 100% sure we do it too. Maybe not bug US phones in those buildings, but spying in other places. Of course we spy each other. We just do it in good understanding, so we don't go crazy if someone gets caught.

                            The only thing that would indicate someone else than the US would be that it has now become public. I'd think they would just remove those bugs and call them 'damn you' and the US would reply 'sorry mate' and back to work. They spy, we spy...
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                            • #44
                              It seems possible that Russia could also be the culprit (is that what you were saying, Roland, or were you talking about the State Dept bugging?). Aren't Russia and the EU in talks on a range of trade-related and other issues?

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                              • #45
                                I would think the EU's internal security is bollocks, so it could be anyone, including a provate company who could then sell on info to the highest bidder
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