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  • #31
    Originally posted by SlowwHand
    Not my problem. I call the cops. 6

    This puts you with nations like the Swiss.
    Hmmm, I must be a Swiss then, although I never liked their cheese and do terribly bad with the crossbow.

    I watch. It's funny. The little person is getting smoked royally. 1 5.26%

    And finally, the French. SO glad someone else is getting kicked to the curb.
    Last time I checked, the French tried to hinder the big bully to beat up the little person.

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    • #32
      I agree -- friends get priority but I would likely intervene in any event. Its all situational anyway. If I had been drinking I would tend to stay out of it. If sober I would only stay out ( choosing to just call the cops) of it if:

      1. it looked like an equal fight
      2. I was with Mrs flubber and/or a child and there was any danger to them--


      I have stepped in when I have seen guys hasseling girls. In one case it tirned out to be a girl that was pissed with her boyfriend. . . she was fine but thanked me for my concern. In another case I saw a guy slap a girl and grabbed him and pulled him away. I left it at that but a friend of mine then came up and asked the guy to "try hitting him" before clocking him one.

      I have also intervened with others in any number of "consensual" fights when the victor was clear. In the stupidity of our youth, we sometimes fought but it was always according to a type of code ( unspoken) and no one ever got any more than a cut or few bruises.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by SlowwHand
        I rush in immediately. This isn't right. 6 31.58%
        Wait until the littler person screams for help. 2 10.53%


        Congratulations. You're like George Bush, and the majority of Americans.
        So when will George W. Bush launch an attack on the United States of America, seeing that it is in fact beating up a smaller country?
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        • #34
          Nope the analogy would be better if you said that Iraq was a bully that was beating up smaller kids (Kuwait) and fighting other kids ( Iran) and all the kids in the neigborhood and town got some of the biggest kids to come teach them a lesson ( Gulf War 1) and make them promise to stop.

          In the current conflict, the fear is of certain weapons and a failure to keep the promises that ended the first pounding. But the big kids and the neighborhood kids are divided on whether another puounding is necessary since some believe that the mere presence of the biggest kid in this neighborhood is sufficient.

          There you go-- THe Iraq conflict boiled down to a schoolyard conflict
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          • #35
            This was about Iraq?
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            • #36
              It was about coming to the aid, of anyone.
              Be it a weaker person, or a weaker nation.
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              • #37
                I thought that's where you were going...

                But what if the only way you could aid the smaller dude was with a shotgun loaded with buckshot?
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                • #38
                  Without knowing the situation it's tough to make the decision to intervene, I mean, for all you know the little guy raped the big guys sister.

                  So? It doesn't matter if the defender killed the assailant's entire family. Vigilantism is always wrong.
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                  • #39
                    When I was in the live entertainment industry, I had to break up a couple of fights. If the confrontation is in the early stages, you simply separate them. If there is a definite instigator, you eject them. If things are getting a bit heavy, you call the police.

                    If you have been feeding booze & drugs to the instigator (like the US gave weapons of mass destruction to Iraq when Sadam was its ally), you can be held partialy responsible for its actions in most jurisdictions.
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                    • #40
                      I thankfully have never been in such a situation: personally, i would go call the cops: it is their job to keep the peace and sort it out, also the person that is culpable needs to be punished by the criminal system.
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                      • #41
                        I should also mention, as anyone in the policing industry knows, the most dangerous situation to get involved in is a "domestic" one e.g. man/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend. A couple of times I witnessed situations where the female "victim" violently came to the aid of her "abuser".

                        I'd much rather deal with a couple of drunken guys with baseball bats.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sir Ralph


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                          Last time I checked, the French tried to hinder the big bully to beat up the little person.
                          Yes, because of all the money they are now receiving from the little person. (Including the weapons they are selling the little person). This quote came from the Man who owns US New and World Report. And he also said that when we get our hands on some of the paper in Bagdad, France may have a met down.

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                          • #43
                            It depends if I think I could take on the bigger person. Which given my size is unlikley

                            so I'd just call the cops.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Uncle Sparky
                              I should also mention, as anyone in the policing industry knows, the most dangerous situation to get involved in is a "domestic" one e.g. man/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend. A couple of times I witnessed situations where the female "victim" violently came to the aid of her "abuser".
                              That's sadly true. That means you have to slap her around too.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Uncle Sparky
                                When I was in the live entertainment industry, I had to break up a couple of fights. If the confrontation is in the early stages, you simply separate them. If there is a definite instigator, you eject them. If things are getting a bit heavy, you call the police.

                                If you have been feeding booze & drugs to the instigator (like the US gave weapons of mass destruction to Iraq when Sadam was its ally), you can be held partialy responsible for its actions in most jurisdictions.
                                ...in which case it is in your best interest to render him harmless ASAP.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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