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  • #61
    Re: Re: Rumsfeld: We don't need the UK

    Originally posted by Elden


    Such as forcing Australia to make up the numbers...
    That would be impossible - Not enough population.

    However, would you consider having some of our tactical nukes?

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    • #62
      I was watching this in the news yesterday

      Sky (Right wingish)
      ITN (Right wingish)
      BBC (More or less centre)

      and all 3 had the same lead, that Rummy had goofed and had really offended the UK and embaressed and undermined Blair.

      Sky's Adam Boulton described a "firestorm of protest from Number 10" directed at Rummy after his remarks.
      (+1)

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      • #63
        I watched the breifing live. I didn't see anything wrong with what he meant, just with the way he said it.
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #64
          Of course. He meant well it was just that what he said totally undermined what Blair is trying to achieve with the diplomatic stuff for the second ammendment and also undermined the way Blair is telling us that he's totally committed to disarming Iraq whatever it takes.
          Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
          Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
          We've got both kinds

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          • #65
            Well, it's better having Rummy mean well but goof, than having Rummy not mean well and not goof.

            Libya and Cuba anyone?
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #66
              Where's the difference?
              “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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              • #67
                One isn't funny. The other one is.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #68
                  Ah, entertainment value...
                  “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                  • #69
                    What would politics be like without good political theater?
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #70
                      While the comment may not be the best for Blair, it was truthful. Should Rumsfeld have lied and said that the US needs Britain in order to squash Iraq? It doesnt. I like the fact that Rumsfeld tells it as he sees it. I've had enough of diplomatic double-speak and 'spinning'. If the anti-war pressure prohibits Britain from taking part, then the US will do it alone. Did anyone doubt that?
                      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                      If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                      Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                      • #71
                        Oh, I'm perfectly happy with Rumsie's comment....
                        “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                        • #72
                          Thank God for Britain, Spain, and other members of the international community who are committed to the cause, despite the occassional gaffe from our less-than-perfect leaders.

                          I never imagined that we'd have to drag the UN kicking and screaming like a bunch of little girls to the enforcement of it's own d@mned resolution, but so be it.

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                          • #73
                            "to the enforcement of it's own d@mned resolution"

                            You really believe that is the issue?
                            “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                            • #74
                              That's part of the issue, yes. It absolutely is, whether you care to acknowledge it or not.

                              "serious consequences" means just exactly that. Serious. Consequential. Force was not specifically called for, but NO ONE discounted the use of it....after all, with sanctions and no fly zones in place already, there weren't any other "serious" or "consequential"
                              cards to play, now were there?

                              We have been d*cking around with Saddam for almost twice as long a time now, as US soldiers spent fighting WWI, WWII, and Korea COMBINED (counting from Saddam's FIRST UN violation).

                              Enough is enough.

                              If the UN lacks the balls to enforce its own resolution then perhaps (just perhaps, mind you), it should get out of the business of writing them. In any case, they have certainly proved their own uselessness, and we will enforce the resolution on its behalf, whether it likes it or not.

                              -=Vel=-
                              The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                              • #75
                                From the comments I've seen watching the security council bull****, they're aware of how pathetic and impotent they look.
                                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                                If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                                Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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