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Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
not since they were unionized.
not since they were unionized.
We sort of look the other way at the situation.
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Sorry, this is completely incorrect. They not only aren't unionized they grossly underpaid and have very little rights. There are millions of undocumented migrant workers in this country and they are the ones that keep the farm industry running cheaply.
We sort of look the other way at the situation.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln -
source?"Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito MussoliniComment
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First hand knowledge.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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They are unionized in California. It's the United Farm Workers Union. They still don't get paid very much.
edit: Well they do hire illegals, and they aren't unionized of course."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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They've attempted to unionize you mean. The sucky thing about being in a no skill labor industry is I can always find so poor, dumb, starving bastard to replace you with. If you act upitty then I will hire a different illegal alien from Mexico who will be more then happy to work for sub-minimium wage because back home he's not making any money.
If you want to be successful in unionization then you need to be in a skilled industry which the management cannot easily replace. Thus pilots and engineers can unionize effectively but hotel workers and farm workers haven't a prayer in the world...Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Yes, only special tax breaks count as subsidies for WTO purposes; _how_ special is the battlefield for lawyers and economists.Originally posted by Oerdin
Having lower taxes is not the same as having subsidy...
I'm not sure but I think there was even a WTO ruling that lower taxes were not a subsidy as long as the tax rate is the same for everyone. For example it would be illegal to give a tax break just to exporters of cheese but it would be fine to have a lower tax rate for every company which made cheese.
From an economic point of view, even sectoral tax breaks are subsidies. So if there were say a 30 % income tax in general, but a 15 % tax on "farm income", it would be the same as taxing it at 30 % and giving the difference as a government handout.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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