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  • #16
    Catholicism is obsolete.
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    • #17
      @ Loin.

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      • #18
        Heresson she was 9, barely developed to cope with childbirth the chance was very high that if she had the baby she would die.

        You think she should die because she was raped?
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        • #19
          Even if you are anti-abortion its hardly the case you want to use to rally your cause
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          • #20
            Most for life people will agree that abortion is justified when the "mother's" (a nine year old? ) life is in danger. I cannot undesratand why anyone would want a nine year to carry a baby to term. The fetus would most likely be born badly undeveloped, and the child would probably die. Isn't the rape trauma enough?
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            • #21
              Why did they wait until the fourth month anyway?

              Even if you are anti-abortion its hardly the case you want to use to rally your cause

              Especially in light of the fact that the pregnancy put the mother's life at risk.

              One hopes the pontiff is able to reverse the girl's excommunication.
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              • #22
                I'm strongly anti-abort but I accept abort under certain circumstances, such as rape, undeveloped/carrying a horrible and painful disease featus, risk of death for the mother and underage pregnant mothers. All those "liberal" activists seeking the "woman's choice" according to which a woman should be free to abort even at the 8th month of age and alike.. screw them, a featus isn't just some kind of multicellular blob, killing him would be the same as drowning a newborn baby- if you don't want a baby give him a chance to be adopted, damn! Who are you to decide to kill someone?
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                • #23
                  All those "liberal" activists seeking the "woman's choice" according to which a woman should be free to abort even at the 8th month of age and alike.
                  Never seen anyone seeking that and no doctor would do it anyway.
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                  • #24
                    I find it interesting that the Church developed the doctrine of a "just war" that authorizes mass murder, but cannot come to authorize a doctrine of "just homicide" in cases like this.

                    Of course every life is precious. But often, saving one life means destoying another. This is why some wars are just and why some abortions are just.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Why did they wait until the fourth month anyway?
                      Presumably, with her age, and the level of poverty/access to medical care, it took a while to realize she was pregnant. Assuming she'd even menstruated previously, it's highly unlikely that with that early an onset of puberty that there was any regularity to it.

                      Plus there's the delay from whatever administrative procedure they had to go through to get the abortion in the first place - since it's normally illegal in Nicaragua and they had to petition for it.
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                      • #26
                        This is easily one of the most offensive threads I've seen on this board, and not because of the church’s action described in the linked article (an action I disagree with BTW), but because of what a number of you have had to say, with your sweeping generalizations ("Catholics are evil", "Catholicism is obsolete"), crude mocking attempts at humor ("holy sperm"), and other anti-Catholic and anti-religious remarks.

                        A number of you feel quite justified in expressing you biases and prejudice against members of a particular religion in a way you would never do if this was a discussion of race or ethnicity.

                        You want to argue that the church’s decision was wrong, be my guest, but leave the anti-Catholic and anti-religion slurs out of it, OK?

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                        • #27
                          I've hardly been a big fan of my Church recently, but if the case was the abortion was not medically nessecary, it is absolutely correct. Abortion is murder and is punished by the Church with excommunication. Don't like, find another church.
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                          • #28
                            I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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                            • #29
                              25,000 people in Spain are doing that, apparently.

                              Good for them.

                              -Arrian
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                              • #30
                                A number of you feel quite justified in expressing you biases and prejudice against members of a particular religion in a way you would never do if this was a discussion of race or ethnicity.
                                Race and ethnicity are:

                                A. Outside people's control.

                                B. Irrelevant.

                                These don't apply to religion, which is more like politics: a chosen stance which affects opinions.

                                A person who chooses a religion, or a political philosophy, should be prepared to defend it. Nobody has to "defend" the color of their skin.

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