Whatever is wrong with #2: Calling it a War for Oil

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Sava
That's right... it's okay to get rich selling oil equipment. In fact, it's unpatriotic if you don't give Saddam Hussein the means to reap billions in oil revenue

Saddam is authorized to reap a few billion in oil revenue. He's supposed to spend it on food, medicines, and humanitarian supplies, though.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
MOBIUS - how did Bush steal the election again? Gore had the two term VP incumbency, a strong economy, and a moron of an opponent, and the biggest funding level of any Democrat candidate ever. For Bush to even have been in the position where a few hundred Florida votes meant anything, Gore had to have given away the show in the first place.

You're right that Gore squandered a big lead, then there's Ralph Nader as well - but what Bush's family and supporters did in by mitigating ten of thousands of votes in Florida and got away with defies belief!

That is what tipped the scales.

The worst thing is that they did just enough to get lucky...

[Sava]

Yeah, and supplying dangerous weapons to Iraq is our job... BOYCOTT FRANCE!

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Ned
That makes many Americans concerned about Iraq, even if we are not Jewish, because we support Israel.

Yeah, but did you ever ask yourself, *why* you do that?

Because they ignore UN resolutions by the scores, instead of just one or two, like Iraq?

Because they are the last true Apartheid state in the world?

Because routinely assassinating political enemies is cool?

Because Israel is such a good friend of the United States, who did for you, what, exactly?

Just because?

[The Vagabond]

Re: Re: Whatever is wrong with #2: Calling it a War for Oil

Originally posted by DinoDoc
War for oil doesn't make any sense. Remove the sanctions and Baghdad would be over joyed to sell the stuff to us.

It's not the first time I see you to repeat this faulty argument, DinoDoc. Iraq would also be overjoyed to sell you Kuwaiti oil after it captured Kuwait. Yet for some reason you had to liberate Kuwait for the sake of oil.

This war is first of all for power, and in this respect it may be important for the survival of the US. Oil is close second. WMD, if any, are distant third.

[Sava]

So in order to punish Iraq for ignoring the UN, we're going to ignore the UN and attack!

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Sava
That's right... we are only attacking Iraq because there is a liberal Jewish conspiracy!

It´s neocon, not liberal; not that I think ideology really matters to the people involved.

[Comrade Tribune]

Re: Re: Re: Whatever is wrong with #2: Calling it a War for Oil

Originally posted by The Vagabond
This war is first of all for power, and in this respect it may be important for the survival of the US.

Sounds eerily like Hitler. He always mumbled about survival, too, while threatening the national survival of *everybody else*.

The Bush Lobby is sure a worthy case for a new Nuremberg.

[Sava]

Iraq already tried to build an empire, build and proliferate WoMD's, bully other countries... pretty soon they'd start assassinating foreign leaders and propping up puppet regimes. That's our job! WE have to stop them111111111

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MOBIUS
That is what tipped the scales.

Loosing his home state had nothing to do with it?

Iraq would also be overjoyed to sell you Kuwaiti oil after it captured Kuwait. Yet for some reason you had to liberate Kuwait for the sake of oil.

One of the reasons for that war was that the US was fearful that other states might conclude that aggression pays and we would have to deal with more wars of conquest.

When even a raving moron like Tribune (who sees a Jewish conspiracy under every bed) sees the truth, why can't you?

[Ned]

You know, guys, I wish this were about OIL. We could then suck Iraq dry will leaving her people impoverished. My what joy this would bring to the Nazi heart of the average American!

[Sava]

don't worry nED We don't need to! We've already sucked iraq dry with economic sanctions.... I bet SADDAM is ready to giev up after seing his people suffer!

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune


Yeah, but did you ever ask yourself, *why* you do that?

Because they ignore UN resolutions by the scores, instead of just one or two, like Iraq?

Because they are the last true Apartheid state in the world?

Because routinely assassinating political enemies is cool?

Because Israel is such a good friend of the United States, who did for you, what, exactly?

Just because?

Or because....

Wait! I almost fed the troll!!!!

*JohnT snatches back tasty morsel before the evil troll snaps at his hand*

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Ned
My what joy this would bring to the Nazi heart of the average American!

The average American is not a Nazi. Just ignorant, brain-washed, and ill-behaved like, well, DinoDoc.

[Ted Striker]

It's not about oil it's about chocolate.