FARC solution: Plausable or just too E X C I T I N G?!?!

[MRT144]

dinodoc, not as long as it keeps awareness up...

[Buck Birdseed]

Well, I doubt the US will commit the same mistake and enter into war against a side with the world's support again.

[JCG]

Funny how Gulf War II is just around the corner then...

[Zylka]

Originally posted by MRT144
the fact that you advocate carpet bombing an entire country knowing full well countless civilians will be killed is probably acceptable because they are poor brown people in a country youve never been to and could really care less about.

Gee, for a second there I thought I specified it was of carpet bombing a PORTION OF THE COUNTRIES F*CKING JUNGLE IN WHICH FARC OPERATES EXCLUSIVELY, not the entire country. Learn English before you come on to piss me off again, or it's just a waste of both of our time.

...and no, it would be useless for me to learn Russian or whatever. Learn English, then have another go at this thread. If you can't, this is a club in which you're not allowed!

[Buck Birdseed]

No-one actually likes Saddam, surely? they're just opposed to the US entering into a war with them. Whereas the FARC are by far the only thing resembling a good side in the mess that is Colombia's weak-state political system. Well, there was the legitimate democratic movement but the SoA-trained paramilitaries had them all asassinated.

[DuncanK]

Like a lot of places the US could get very involved if the price of oil goes up and the rebels keep sabotaging the pipeline.

[JCG]

You just love half-informed generalizations, don't you Buck?

[MRT144]

but you know americans cant find their targets all the time. look at the chinese embassy, and your countrymen that we bombed. ok that was funny, i mean canadians getting their asses blown to bits by their "allies"

civilians live in that jungle too, but i guess its acceptable losses because you really dont care about them. you just care about looking tough on leftist rebelliion led astray. terrorists die, consequences be damned!

damn, if i knew it was this easy to provoke you i would have done it sooner

[Buck Birdseed]

That's me!

To be honest, I'm probably as well-informed as anyone here on the domestic Colomibian situation- I've sat through a couple of lectures (one given by a pro-FARC group, admittedly) and done a whole load of seminar reading on it.

I just don't feel like expounding on it properly- otherwise I'd do it in the preexisting threads.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by MRT144
but you know americans cant find their targets all the time. look at the chinese embassy, and your countrymen that we bombed. ok that was funny, i mean canadians getting their asses blown to bits by their "allies"

civilians live in that jungle too, but i guess its acceptable losses because you really dont care about them. you just care about looking tough on leftist rebelliion led astray. terrorists die, consequences be damned!

damn, if i knew it was this easy to provoke you i would have done it sooner

Which is something I specifically asked for clarification of - the civilian factor in their government granted area. So far all you've given is U KNOW THAT THE US ALWAYS BOMBS DA INNOCENTS AND WILL HAPPEN AGAIN LONG LIVE T-34

Actually no, forget that. I really do think you should learn English... now go back to your turnip stew and pile of welfare cheques!

[MRT144]

name one time we havent killed civilians while trying to purge a country of a political orginization we dont approve of?

i think causing the death of one innocent in a nation is unnacceptable losses. it encourages anti american sentiment and that bites us in the ass.

[Zylka]

A single innocent civilian will die in a month of elementary school field trips, for God's sake. Here I'm assuming that the inevitable civilian death will be outweighed by the hopeful eradication of the current "car bomb and kidnap civilian populations" FARC openly embraces

[JCG]

Buck: Well then probably you should do a lot more research if you want less biased views on the situation (and I don't mean U.S government speeches, of course).

Unfortunately people who don't know Spanish and haven't been there usually have quite a hard time imagining how things on the ground really look like these days....

Zylka: If only that were all they did, indeed....

[MRT144]

but will the death be caused by americans? will a generation of columbians blame americans for what happened? its far better for them to be killed by their own countrymen rather than for us to do it. that way all the anger and outrage is directed towards the guilty party rather than us.

i dont want another middle east situation where antiamerican sentiment is caused by our massive intervention there.

[Buck Birdseed]

I have done the fair bit of reading and I've yet to see an account that throws a positive light on the other three main groups in the country- the innefectual, corruption-ridden government owned entirely or partially by various third parties, the paramilitary groups who bear the bunt of responsibility for the highest political murder rate in the world (and consequently drive all activists into the arms of FARC), and the drug lords. I'm not necessarily saying the FARC are any good, but short of a credible democratic alternative whose leaders don't get shot every three months, I can't see a better solution for the fate of the country.