Saturday I Report To My Armory To Head Out

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

Same with Bush jr., or Gore's protected, chicken**** "service" in Vietnam, where it was made sure he was kept out of danger.

IIRC, Gore did volunteer, but it was his father who made sure he was put into a cushy position where he'd be kept out of harm's way. Can't really hold that against him, IMO.

How many of you, if sent to a brutal warzone, were given the orders of photographing stuff and staying out of the thick of it wouldn't thank your lucky stars? Right.

Good luck Sprayber... hope you stay safe, and don't have to kill anyone.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


IIRC, Gore did volunteer, but it was his father who made sure he was put into a cushy position where he'd be kept out of harm's way. Can't really hold that against him, IMO.

How many of you, if sent to a brutal warzone, were given the orders of photographing stuff and staying out of the thick of it wouldn't thank your lucky stars? Right.

Good luck Sprayber... hope you stay safe, and don't have to kill anyone.

i would thank my lucky stars, but people like Gore had a little more than lucky stars working for them, didn't they?

ACK!

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Tuberski


i would thank my lucky stars, but people like Gore had a little more than lucky stars working for them, didn't they?

ACK!

Again, is that his fault?

I recall reading a Washington Times article on the subject (which of course was anti-Gore in tone), but it quoted the reporter who was in charge of keeping Gore "out of trouble." His orders were top-secret, so as far as he knew Gore knew nothing of them. He said Gore did what he was supposed to do well, didn't seem to be afraid or unwilling to go into a combat situation and never gave a hint of exaggerating his own importance.

Oh, and Gore also saved the life of a fellow soldier. Sure, it was from drowning in a strong rip tide while they were on the beach, but hey...it's more than I've done!

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


IIRC, Gore did volunteer, but it was his father who made sure he was put into a cushy position where he'd be kept out of harm's way. Can't really hold that against him, IMO.

How many of you, if sent to a brutal warzone, were given the orders of photographing stuff and staying out of the thick of it wouldn't thank your lucky stars? Right.

Good luck Sprayber... hope you stay safe, and don't have to kill anyone.

Great rationalization. Obviously Gore's daddy couldn't volunteer him, but the simple facts are that if draft bait Gore didn't volunteer, even his daddy couldn't have likely fixed his MOS. Gore "volunteering" was intimately connected with his duty assignment, and Gore spent the vast majority of his time in Saigon, and the rest in rear areas. Hardly a "brutal warzone," unless you count bar fights in Cholon with the white mice.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Great rationalization. Obviously Gore's daddy couldn't volunteer him, but the simple facts are that if draft bait Gore didn't volunteer, even his daddy couldn't have likely fixed his MOS. Gore "volunteering" was intimately connected with his duty assignment, and Gore spent the vast majority of his time in Saigon, and the rest in rear areas. Hardly a "brutal warzone," unless you count bar fights in Cholon with the white mice.

So what? Gore could have deferred, he could have conscientiously objected, he could have done a lot of things...but he did go! You're telling me that if anyone else was told "If you volunteer instead of wait for the draft, you will get a better assignment," they wouldn't go and volunteer?

I think this is a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't thing here. Plenty of others also "got away" with cushy assignments, because there were cushy jobs that needed to be filled. It's rather lame to then accuse them of being chicken**** because they didn't rush out into the jungle to kill them some gooks.

Gore never claimed to have been in combat, he always said he didn't do very much in the war. But he went, he did what he was told, he did it well, and that's more than many did. So what's the problem?

[Joseph]

Good Luck from an old Navy vet. Forty year ago I was in boot camp. God time flys.
Feb. 13, 1962 to March 26, 1965

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Good luck Sprayber... hope you stay safe, and don't have to kill anyone.

If it gets to the point to where I'm having to kill someone then the war effort has hit some major snags.

pharaprashing Rafter man in Full Metal Jacket.

"I'm here to take pictures, but if the **** gets too thick i'll go to the rifle."

Just replace taking pictures with using a multimeter

[Dinner]

Ahhh, life in the maintaince company.

BTW I can't really blame Gore because my dad did something similiar during Vietnam. He didn't have a Senetor father to help him out but the choice was volenteer and choice your MOS or get drafted and become an 11B. He scored high and the ASFAB and spent 2 of his four years in training as a missile tech and another year learning German in Monterey. He's last year he was stationed in Germany.

When he went into the recruiter's office he asked "Where is the furthest away from Vietnam I can get'? The recruiter told him about a type of missile they only based out of North Dakota or West Germany so he signed up knowing he'd never see the wrong side of the Pacific.

[Shi Huangdi]

Late Friday Night, looks like you will be heading out relatively soon. I hope you are enjoying your last time her Sprayber. Good luck and God speed with what you are about to go through...

[Sprayber]

I have everything ready and I have a few minutes to spare. This has been one of those weird tying up loose end nights. But I find that I wasn't entirely successful in that regard. The next five days will be spent standing in one line or another. I know at the end of one line will be a group of medical types with their needles combing through my records just dying to find a shot that I don't have and need. Another line will lead me to forms that may net me some extra money here or there. All in all it will go pretty smooth, since we did practically the same thing two months ago in preparation.

I'll try to pop in before the leap across the pond. Later on, if you guys happen to be watching CNN or BBC and see a bunch of rednecks dressed in desert fatigues with a large razorback flag flying above them, look close cause one of those guys may be me

[Dinner]

A good way to net a few extra bucks is to pad the amount of rent you tell them you pay. It goes by zip code or the amount on the rental contract you show them so you can download a form off the internet and then fill in an extra $200 and you'll get away with it.

Also are they making you get the intial anthrex shot or the booster? The first one was fine but the second one is the one people report having problems with. I didn't have any side effects but it has left a perminent little bump on my arm where the needle stuck me.

[The Mad Monk]

Good Luck Sprayber, and God Bless.

[Andemagne]

Originally posted by Pekka
Ande, and National Guard stands for Kansalliskaarti.

yees yees, I know. well, actually I would translate National Guard to SuojelusKunta.

[Pekka]

Ande, yeah, that would be closer to their function, but you can't do that! You can't start translating your own man, don't be crazy man!

[Andemagne]

Originally posted by Pekka
Ande, yeah, that would be closer to their function, but you can't do that! You can't start translating your own man, don't be crazy man!

yeah, you're right.
would "minute men" be better translation to SuojelusKunta?