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  • #31
    The thing is, France is one of the natural allies of so many of these states when it comes to the big money EU issue, farm subsidies. All the E.European states would like to get good farm subsidies from the EU and France is the big champion of them among the very large states, with Poland also among them
    Seems I remember French Farmers violently protesting when they could not get their annual increse in Welfare from the gov't a few years back. Doesn't look like the model system to me. If I were the Eastern Europeans I would just whip the French on the capitalist free market system. Something the French know less and less about.

    Chirac is , afterall, nothing more than a closet communist. We have all seen how well that system works.

    WILL A REAL LEADER IN EUROPE PLEASE STEP FORWARD!!
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    • #32
      Wouldn't it be ironic if Eastern Europe — in a pique over Chirac's comments — began to gravitate towards, say, Moscow? Yeah, not likely to happen, but still ...

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      • #33
        If there's one thing hat unites almost all eastern europeans (Yugos, Ukranians and some others excluded) is their common hatred for Russia!

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        • #34
          I suppose Communism and Josef Stalin would do that ... hey, maybe they'll gravitate towards the Athens-Belgrade Axis!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Gatekeeper
            I suppose Communism and Josef Stalin would do that ... hey, maybe they'll gravitate towards the Athens-Belgrade Axis!
            Athens already kisses Paris's arse, so that's out.
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            • #36
              A little bit of a joke:

              when abroad one of my friends was Slovakian and he really, really hated the Russians. (although nothing was done to him per se)

              So there was a conference and there were a couple of russian girls there who were HOT!

              I mentioned that fact to him and his reply was (of course): Russian girls? BAH! They're sluts

              (and the reply: great! what we're waiting for then? )

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              • #37
                Stupid Russian jokes ... heh, kind of like our stupid Polish jokes around my part of the US, at least from the older generations.

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                • #38
                  DD ... well, there's better parts of Paris to kiss, but we'll leave that final decision up to those Hellenes.

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                  • #39
                    We ain't kissing noone's arse really.

                    Isn't sound, hygiene wise.

                    I agree with the better parts of Paris comment though.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by PLATO1003
                      Chirac is , afterall, nothing more than a closet communist. We have all seen how well that system works.

                      WILL A REAL LEADER IN EUROPE PLEASE STEP FORWARD!!
                      Can a french poster please show up and comment on this notion? Bush just raised farm subsiides. Is he a closet communist?

                      As for farm subsidies: the Poles and the french worked hand in hand to keep them high. If the Germans and UK don't want to pay more, then that's just one mopre obsticle for the E.Europeans to join the EU. Their economies would benefit far more form farm subsidies than those of France.

                      I have confidence that the EU will continue to gather together. I do think France will be the most recalcitrant when it comes to further federalization of the Union, since then they would loose more power. At the same itme, tiny states already have too much power in the EU. As the EU stands, Germany, France, the UK, Italy, Spain, and Poland make up soemthing like 75% or more of the people in the EU. Of the E.European states wanting to join, only Romania has a significan population of over 20 million. The Baltic states are tiny.
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                      • #41
                        Besides, we're da president!

                        The whole of Europe was ecstatic at our success to reunite them in the European summit

                        Then Chirac took courage and started opening his mouth...

                        Well what are you gonna do
                        It's quite funny actually. Bush and Chirac= best thing for Europe, in a twisted way

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                        • #42
                          Yeah Chirac

                          He finally showed me that I was right all along, he is a MoFo.

                          French Imperialism is on the rise, and they are calling it the EU.

                          I don't know if I want those E. European nations to join the EU anymore or not. They should either join and bully the French (that would be fun), or the should make their own union, that would eventually swallow the EU, due to the French/German biggotry that exists in it.

                          One thing is for sure France is really hurting themselves in the eyes of the world by trying to bribe the E. Europeans for their silence and devotions. I just love it!

                          This is why the EU will not work. Foreign policy is to closely related to domestic economics to have so many countries participating.

                          I guess as long as he's around the French will continue to be the butt of my jokes.

                          Long Live Chirac! Long Live France!
                          Monkey!!!

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                          • #43
                            I say it was worth it just for watching you twist your shorts over it though

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                            • #44
                              Ozz, its devoid of character because there's nobody putting forward as a credible option. I think if there was some movement on this, and it was muted as a credible alternative, it would take root.

                              I agree though, it needs senior support in all nations, not just a few people like me spouting

                              oliverfa .. Yes, you are right, there's a lot of us who feel betrayed over the last few weeks, and you may well be right that the French have done perminant damage, after all I was a pro European only a month or so ago, now Im openly advocating an alternative union .. one I know would be more acceptable to the vast majority of British.
                              "Wherever wood floats, you will find the British" . Napoleon

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                              • #45
                                "The UK in the European Community will be like a warm eating an apple from the inside"

                                Charles De Gaule.

                                That... prophetic man....

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