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  • I posted this in the other thread... due to a lack of a single Iraq thread, I must cut and paste.

    I'm not simply against the war because I'm a hippie peacenik... Here are my reasons for being against the war.

    1. 100 billion dollar+ price tag
    2. American lives at risk
    3. Hatred towards America it will spawn
    4. Possibility for sparking a greater conflict
    5. Possibility of Saddam launching a WoMD against someone before he dies
    6. Bush's motives
    7. What happens to Iraq afterwards

    I'm not convinced that the end result of going after Saddam is worth the price we are going to pay for the war. It's a results vs rewards situation for me. Anytime a politician wants something like this so bad, I get suspicious.
    I don't care about how many people protest. I don't care about public support for the war. I don't care about biased polls. I just wish the media, the Bush admin, or SOMEONE would just address these 7 points. That's what we should be talking about. Public opinion is irrelevant. The public (including myself) isn't privy to the information needed to make an intelligent decision anyways. I wish there was a more open discussion of my concerns.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • "His job is not to do something that everyone aggrees to"

      Uh huh, right. Like pleasing all, always, is even a reasonable expectation.
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      • Did you not read it right are do you just need a hit...? Read it again then see if I'm smoking da doobie.
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        • Obviously, DF and others believe that we should run the country on the basis of opinion polls, even if the whims of people are incredibly malleable.

          We elect officials to speak for us. To make decisions on larger issues.

          That's what they get paid to do.

          If you disagree with the decisions they make, vote them out of office.

          Pretty simple stuff.

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          • The problem with our elected officials, as of late, is that there has been a deafening silence in debating the merits and drawbacks of the impending war.

            This recent speech by Robert Byrd shows how passive our representatives have been.
            "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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            • Originally posted by DetroitDave
              The problem with our elected officials, as of late, is that there has been a deafening silence in debating the merits and drawbacks of the impending war.
              Shouldn't they have done that before voting to give him the power to wage war?
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              • 75% of all statistics are fake
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                • 90% of them are also made up on the spot.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • 95% percent of statistics are asking a biased question
                    looking for a predetermined answer.

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                    • DD, people vote guys like Robert Byrd into office because they want the influence his seniority gets the state. They aren't thinking about his stance on issues. They aren't thinking one inch beyond their own noses.
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                      • Anyone have a link to the original news article that was posted?
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                        • Originally posted by CICSMaster


                          Why does it matter, 66% is 66% regardless of how it is made up.

                          Do you not get it. The majority of the American people are with Bush on this issue.
                          The usual vocal minority, get all the press.
                          But I believe that most western democratic countries, who have suffered through inumerable protest marches, are now coming to realise that the protest movement (of whatever it is about) does not represent the majority view.
                          I believe, the vast majority of people are now starting to simply ignore news on protests, except for the novelty value, and are forming their own opinion.
                          I would like to know the demographics of the voters in this poll because I want to see how diverse these voters are.

                          Isn't it the case that the more diverse the voters are in any poll, the more of a legitimate cross-section you have of the society?
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • Originally posted by MrFun
                            Isn't it the case that the more diverse the voters are in any poll, the more of a legitimate cross-section you have of the society?
                            No. The most accurate polls are random samples.
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                            • Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                              No. The most accurate polls are random samples.
                              Right, but the more randomly a poll is conducted, doesn't that increase the chances of greater diversity among voters?

                              So really randomness and diversity of voters are somewhat interrelated?
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • So no one has the source article?
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