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  • Originally posted by MOBIUS
    I think you fail to understand the magnitude of the crowds...
    1 or 1,000,000,000, are you honestly naive enough to think Bush cares either way?
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    • Originally posted by Frogger
      How many voted for the CA motion on Iraq on the same day, sweetheart?
      Why would they ruin the opportunity they have to act like they're independent of the US? They don't need to commit support until it actually happens.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • Originally posted by DinoDoc

        Is that even possible? I heard he was even more unintelligible in French than he is in English.
        Half of his incoherence is an act. Half is just him.

        Right now he's more incoherent than he's ever been before.
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
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        • Originally posted by Asher

          Why would they ruin the opportunity they have to act like they're independent of the US? They don't need to commit support until it actually happens.
          Your thoughts on this are ridiculous.

          The Libs are a slightly left-of-centre party (slightly). Canadians as a whole are pretty much against war (see any poll, see the street demos today). The only Canadians who aren't dead-set against it are in Alberta. The Liberal party has one (?) MP from Alberta and almost no prospects of picking up any more. The Canadians most against war with Iraq are Quebecers. The Liberal party has 35 or so MPs from Quebec, and the possibility of getting 10 or 15 more if they play their cards right.

          Which direction do you think the Libs would rather get drawn in?
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

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          • I was not among the demonstrators, as I would hate to be mistaken for a commie, but I am still against the war. The numbers are interesting: The number of soldiers to win the f*cking war are max 250 000 while the demo people exceeds 10 millions. Interesting comparison.

            I am not among any of the numbers.
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            • I thought recent polls showed a majority of Albertans were against the war as well?

              Not that any of that matters.

              What was support for the Gulf War like?
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • Who was in charge during Gulf War I in Canada?

                What happened to his party at the next election?

                What was world support for Gulf War I like compared to now?
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

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                • I think you should give Saddam the chance to resign. If he does, he should get a free ride with the space shuttle... Isn't that a good idea?
                  So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                  Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                  • Who was in charge during Gulf War I in Canada?
                    And who is in charge during Gulf War II in Canada? A lame duck Prime Minister who has already told us the specific date he'll resign. He doesn't give a rats ass about reelection or his party's future, if he did he wouldn't have signed Kyoto.

                    What was world support for Gulf War I like compared to now?
                    Wasn't it about the same, if not less? I know American support for Gulf Wr I is far less than what it is now.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre
                      I think you should give Saddam the chance to resign. If he does, he should get a free ride with the space shuttle... Isn't that a good idea?

                      Brilliant -- because we all know he can't resign any damn time he wants to!
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • Why now? What did Saddam do the latest months to get him punished for things he did 15 years ago? Not that I like him but my question make a lot of sense.
                        So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                        Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                        • One word....distraction.
                          "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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                          • Wold support was a lot higher. The Americans had the French with them and a much stronger UN resolution to back them up.

                            Your point about JC resigning after this term isn't in your favour, Asher. Remember that he's played the middle while hoping for the left for the last 10 years.

                            He gives a damn for the party's future or else he'd have told the US to go suck it. Kyoto just isn't as big an issue as Albertans think it is. And what Alberta thinks doesn't matter to the Liberals because nobody in Alberta will vote Liberal until the Liberal party is headed by George W. Bush.

                            Ontario doesn't give a damn about Kyoto, Quebec thinks it's a good idea, BC is full of hippies and nobody else counts.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • In Gulf war one I remember lots of "peace" protests lead by leftist types. They didn't even think we should intervine when Iraq invaded Kuwait. As far as they were concerned the military should be disbanded and if we just showed our love for people like Saddam then they would be converted to socialism and give up their evil ways.

                              The point is the protesters settled down after a few U.N. resolutions and when the war became a total route for the Iraqis. If Bush is smart enough to wiggle another U.N. resolution through then the vast majority of protesters will probably shut up just like they did last time.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                              • Originally posted by Asher

                                1 or 1,000,000,000, are you honestly naive enough to think Bush cares either way?


                                Are you honestly naive enough to think that I'm naive enough to think Bush cares either way?

                                Did I say that? No.

                                So stop being so childish...

                                Bush may not...

                                But you forget that Blair is a public opinion ratings whore, so it might rattle him. Same with Berlusconi...

                                Nations such as France and Germany will feel vindicated that the largest crowds on the day appeared in pro war countries (UK, Italy, Spain) and will become even more entrenched - at this rate the weapons inspectors will have to uncover a 100 megaton nuke aimed at Bush's Texas ranch to change their minds now...
                                Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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