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**KrazyHorse** · February 13, 2003, 19:42

Ned, answer the question.

I was reading that the Canadian goverment intends to actively support us in Iraq with a special unit that is highly skilled in urban combat.

Where'd you hear this?

**Dinner** · February 13, 2003, 19:43

Re: Re: Has Belgium gone mad?

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I don't see your point. Are you saying that Sharon has not committed any warcrimes?

In a strict legal definition I would say he has not or at least not any worse then a half dozen other states you Eurotwats are happy enough getting in bed with. Also nearly the entire communist Chinese leadership committed heinous acts, acts which can only be described as crimes against humanity, during the Cultural Revolution but there aren't any Eurotwats going after them. Or the communist leadership of North Korea which has systematically starved its own people and engaged in all sorts of criminal acts.

The fact that you ignore the crimes of your fellow leftists and constantly seek to treat Israel with a double standard only illustrates what profound hypocrites and bigots you are. Bush was right about Europe’s “International Courts” being nothing more then the kangaroo court of sycophants and leftist ideologues. They should be ignored with the derision they deserve. :doitnow:

**DanS** · February 13, 2003, 19:54

Is it frightening that I've sung that song in front of 100 000 people?

Terrifying!!!

**cinch** · February 13, 2003, 19:54

Frogger & Panag:

I think it's sad that we're measuring our country's worth by how our nuclear weapons capabilities... I, for one, am glad that Canada is nuke-free, and I hope that we don't have any "secret leftovers". I think it sets a shining example for the world, one of disarmament... Sadly, also an example that seems to have been blocked out by recent events. (I don't think the Americans are in any sort of mood to destroy their own nukes at this point.) Although, Frogger, I'm assuming you were just trying to get a rise out of 'em, right? Right???

On Belgium Supreme Court: I think the ruling is silly and ineffectual. Too much political bluster, when clearly no real action was meant to be taken. However, I don't think this represents or should reflect on the Belgian population, at all.

On NATO: I think France, Germany, and Belgium (I'd say Canada, too, but we already committed) should tell Turkey that they'll send defenses, IF the Turks promise not to declare war on Iraq, or provide a launching pad for an American invasion. That seems fair enough to me. NATO should not be twisted into supporting a war it doesn't believe in as a whole.

**KrazyHorse** · February 13, 2003, 19:56

cinch, if you think I'm seriously puffing up my chest here you've got another thing coming.

**Maniac** · February 13, 2003, 19:56

Originally posted by Ned
Getting back to the basic issue: Why do you believe that the US should subject its foregn policy to European approval?

Why do you believe that Belgium/France/Germany should subject its foreign policy to American approval? Go to war with Iraq then. You can't be stopped anyway. But don't expect us in the UN or NATO to give you an excuse; instead just admit you're international pariah.

**cinch** · February 13, 2003, 19:57

Frogger:

I'm pleased to hear that! It's hard to tell on this contraption, sometimes...

Wait, does that go for Panag, too, then?

**KrazyHorse** · February 13, 2003, 19:58

Probably not. Israelis don't have a sense of humour.

It's a national inferiority complex.

**KrazyHorse** · February 13, 2003, 19:59

p.s.: note my location field...

**Dinner** · February 13, 2003, 20:05

Originally posted by Ozz
I think they said the same in Yugoslavia/Serbia about
their leader who was accused and is now on trial for
war Crimes.

Of course Sharon isn't the first, Begin was the first
criminal (terrorist) PM of Israel wasn't he?

Of course Serbia didn't have the U.S. on its side did it? The desire to treat Israel more harshly then the crimal communist regimes Eurotwats so dearly love simply doesn't exist in the U.S.. Americans don't feel Israel should be singled out while a dozen other states get away with murder so this court is doomed to failure.

Also it's ruling aren't agreed to be legal rulings by the major powers so it will have little effect outside of Belgium or the EU. It would also be wise to remember that the U.S. honors arrest warrents which are issued by the Israeli courts so should Israel issue counter warrents then the named persons would be arrested in the U.S. and extrodited to Israel for trial.

Two can play that game.

Az · February 13, 2003, 20:08

Probably not. Israelis don't have a sense of humour.

**Maniac** · February 13, 2003, 20:10

Originally posted by panag
hi ,

, .......

allas it seems that most people in belgium in the parlement think the same , ...... they have no idea with what the heck they are buzzzzy with , .....

hey they got ten million people , and five governments , ......

Actually there are SIX governments. This is because we have three communities (the Flemish, the French-Walloon, and a small German) who have to try to live together in peace. So unlike you we don't murder a community with another culture...

and they are going to teach us , ......

at least we give rights to immigrants and refugees , ..... unlike them , and then they call themselves a democrazy , .......

Where did you get that idea? No rights for immigrants or refugees?? Due to our strong social security system, I'd say Belgium is among the best countries to be for immigrants and refugees.

pffffffffffff , we should start to boycott them

Sure. If you want to shoot yourself in the foot... I would be very surprised if the Israeli economy is stronger than the Belgian one.

hi ,

why not , most of them are jews , .....

that makes them Israeli , ....

and Ramat - Gan would love to see them coming

why should they stay in a country that hates them , .....

Unlike what the American and Israeli propaganda may want you to believe, Belgium or France isn't antisemitic. The simple truth is there are too little jews left here to hate after the Holocaust. Muslims are the new targeted minority group blamed for everything by extreme-right.
At most, and I might already be seriously overexaggerating, you could say we are anti-American and anti-Israeli (not antisemitic!) because of your arrogance and attitude towards the Palestinians.

**Ned** · February 13, 2003, 20:11

Originally posted by Frogger
Ned, answer the question.

I was reading that the Canadian goverment intends to actively support us in Iraq with a special unit that is highly skilled in urban combat.

Where'd you hear this?

CBC news, I believe. The article was about some member of the Canadian parliament questioning the defense minister why some high level Canadian generals were in Kuwait talking to American generals, IIRC. The story went on to discuss this Canadian special forces unit that had done so well in Afghanistan, and that the US wanted to employ it again in Iraq. The unit, 300 strong, was supposed to be especially skilled in urban warfare.

**Maniac** · February 13, 2003, 20:14

Ah yes, FYI, my mother knows an ex-parlementarian who knows Willy Claes, ex-secretary-general of the NATO (a Belgian yes), and he says the war will start the 14th. So if Claes is still well informed, tomorrow your prayers should be answered...

Az · February 13, 2003, 20:14

This thread is great.

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