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"But being rich isn't a right."-Goinginit
It is in my country if you are born into the right class.
It is in my country if you are born into the right class.
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"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
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Just spare us the trickle down crap. We get enough of the ridiculous bull**** from our presidents.Originally posted by Oerdin
Shall we talk about the rising tide and boats again?"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Oh my God. We would be much better of without those bastards who lived like kings while millions of people suffered. It's those same guys who defend this system with all their resources. The fact that they give a small portion of the money that they exploit from the masses to charity is jsut for PR. Notice how the history books are full ot that BS propaganda.Originally posted by Goingonit
Liberals ARE the working poor.
In any survey of charity, you'll find the rich give a larger percentage of income as a whole because they have more disposable income.
I'm sick and tired of everybody badmouthing the rich about charity. Where would we be without Carnegies? Without Bill Gateses?
You libertarians what to do away with social welfare because you don't want help people. Don't give us this crap!"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Great, Bill Gates was a feudal lord
Now everything is clear
"An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop" - ExcessionComment
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Myrddin:
Yes, didn't you know he has a manor with many knights he can call to the defense of the demesne
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“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Why do you guys think that capitalism is so much better than feudalism, besides the fact that it generates more capital?"When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Choice"An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop" - ExcessionComment
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It's funny. I was just thinking that most of Europe has "gone home to momma", so to speak. The couldn't handle capitalism so they went back to feudalism, I'm sorry socialism that is. The feudal lord (government) takes the majority of your money and returns some back for you to spend. javascript:smilie('')
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You guys are suckers.
I would rather live by my wits than succumb to some know-nothing bureaucrat who's trying to tell me what to spend money on.
And BTW, after working with many homeless people the majority of them are mentally ill and should be institutionalized, rather than let loose on the streets. I personally help the working poor as those are the one's I see worth saving.
Frankly, I'm not sorry for the stupid, lazy bastard who isn't willing to work the two to three jobs to see his family get a better life. Let the idiot stew.Pax Superiore Vi Tellarum
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Same here. I can't handle the hard core types myself, but most of the formal resource structure seems to be aimed toward them anyway. I'd rather help to keep people from getting to this level, by slipping them a meal and a little rent money, or helping them find a job to make ends meet while they keep looking for something long term.Originally posted by cia
And BTW, after working with many homeless people the majority of them are mentally ill and should be institutionalized, rather than let loose on the streets. I personally help the working poor as those are the one's I see worth saving.
I agree.Originally posted by cia
Frankly, I'm not sorry for the stupid, lazy bastard who isn't willing to work the two to three jobs to see his family get a better life. Let the idiot stew.He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
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Assuming I'm willing to quit my job, which most people are unwilling to do. I can go work for someone else. And that's the only reason why you think that capitalism is better than feudalism.Originally posted by Myrddin
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"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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slipping them a meal or a little rent money isn't going to save them. The only thing that will save them is a better system of government.Originally posted by Sikander
Same here. I can't handle the hard core types myself, but most of the formal resource structure seems to be aimed toward them anyway. I'd rather help to keep people from getting to this level, by slipping them a meal and a little rent money, or helping them find a job to make ends meet while they keep looking for something long term."When you ride alone, you ride with Bin Ladin"-Bill Maher
"All capital is dripping with blood."-Karl Marx
"Of course, my response to your Marx quote is 'So?'"-Imran SiddiquiComment
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Duncan -I know this is a foreign concept to you, but I don't think "government" magically transforms immoral acts into moral acts. Stealing is immoral regardless of whether I'm doing the stealing or some politician I've "elected". So it's not a matter of helping the poor, it's a matter of how and with whose money. I won't steal from others to help the poor, you do and accuse people of being selfish for not helping you steal. Fine, but let's not lose sight of what is really being done...You libertarians what to do away with social welfare because you don't want help people. Don't give us this crap!
See Sikander, it doesn't matter if you devote your time and money to helping people, the only way you can properly show your compassion is by expressing your joy and support for liberals stealing our money to spend on what they want. Liberalism is the ideology of thieves...or to quote Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits - "I legalised robbery, and called it belief"...Comment
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Ordinary people don't have the same ethics that you people do.Stealing is immoral regardless of whether I'm doing the stealing or some politician I've "elected".
I for once think that taxation is a very moral concept, call it stealing, butchering your wallet, murdering your savings or whatever.Comment
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Azazel -Yes, we are extraordinary.Ordinary people don't have the same ethics that you people do.
You thought once? Should have saved it for this thread.I for once think that taxation is a very moral concept, call it stealing, butchering your wallet, murdering your savings or whatever. Yes, stealing is a very moral concept. Oops, you call it "taxation", sorry. What euphemism do you have for the Nazis and their genocide? Does it bother you at all that the concept of taxation, from what we can tell, originated with autocratic monarchies or despots, i.e., dictatorships?
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That was sort of under the definition of Godwin's law, no?
No. So did the concept of police, rule of law ( in some monarchies), even the concept of RIGHTS. To which I don't adhere, btw.Does it bother you at all that the concept of taxation, from what we can tell, originated with autocratic monarchies or despots, i.e., dictatorships?
I am a consequentialist. To me, it CAN be moral.Yes, stealing is a very moral conceptComment
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