What is the World Prepared to Do to Contain American Aggression?

[uh Clem]

As Jim Hightower put it, we don't need a third party, we need a second.

[David Floyd]

I'd probably vote for a moderate Democrat to stop a war, but I draw the line at extreme leftists, those who want to increase taxes, things of that nature.

[David Floyd]

So would this type of candidate be agreeable to all of us third party types?

-Libertarian w/ realistic economic policy (to include large tax cuts, eventually reducing taxes to almost nothing over a period of time)
-Supports reasonable anti-pollution laws
-Is against any war except obvious self defense

Orange, che - would y'all support this candidate? I would.

[chequita guevara]

I'm pretty much opposed to large tax cuts. Even if we were able to abolish most of the military, we'd need to pay off the debt. Debts are simply taxes on future generations.

[orange]

because of the first part, no, probably not...but otherwise he's a gem. I'd probably vote for an anti-war dem. or green instead...

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Nader will strengthen the Dem party: if the party ignores the left, Nader will clean up. and then the Reps will gain power. And then the moderate left will wail that Nader is stealing their ball.
It hurts, but it works.

[David Floyd]

Look, guys, the point isn't that you are Libertarians, the point is that I'm trying to present the most moderate possible Libertarian in an attempt to get support from Greens and independents and socialists/communists and some Republicans/Democrats as a way to get a third voice in the political mix. The LP is the only party with a chance for this, I think, so it only makes sense.

[orange]

Greens have just as large a chance. If I can make sacrifices, why can't you? Hell, you wouldn't vote for a Democrat who would "raise taxes" Yeesh. Sometimes that's good economic policy...curb inflation...and what not.

[David Floyd]

*shrug* I already said I'd vote for Nader over Bush. But in the US, parties that appear to be right-wing, or are generally seen as right wing, do better. That's why Libertarians, who are seen as more right wing than Greens, would stand a much better chance.

[DuncanK]

Originally posted by orange
After all, I'm as much a libertarian as I am a leftist.

Wha?!?!

[DuncanK]

There is no way I would vote for a libertarian. They are just conservatives who claim to follow a ridiculous political model.

[David Floyd]

Libertarians are in no way conservative. Certainly, they agree with conservatives in some areas, such as gun ownership and their opposition to welfare and such, yet Libertarians also want separation of church and state, unfettered free trade, miniscule militaries, legalized drugs, lowered age of consent, and withdrawal of the military from overseas bases. In what way are Libertarians conservative, again?

[Serb]

Originally posted by David Floyd
It's even more unrealistic to expect to challenge the US militarily (even against the rest of the world, the US would come out ahead).

You are watching too many 'Superman' cartoons David.

[Bereta_Eder]

Re: What is the World Prepared to Do to Contain American Aggression?

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Democratic governments that support US aggression do so at their own peril, especially if the war goes badly (however that is defined). Blair is putting his head on the chopping block. Chirac, a Conservative, is leading the oppostion in Europe. How many governments will be voted out for their support of US war-mongering?

Ninty percent of the population of the world is opposed to the U.S. aggression against Iraq (Osama bin Laden has succeeded in at least one of his goals). Most countries are opposed, with the exception of Israel and Kuwait, the majority populations in every other country are opposed to war without UN approval (including the United States).

What is the world prepared to do to stop us? War is out of the question (except in North Korea, which is completely out of touch with reality). What about sanctions? What if the opposed governments of the world threatened to impose sanctions against the US if the US attacked without UN approval? Maybe Europe could throw us out of NATO (it would never happen).

The world has a duty to stop the United States. While I don't wish war upon any people, especially my own, there are other methods of forcing our Hitler from invading Czechoslavakia.

Stand up to us, damnit! Stop us before we kill again.

Well, we try d'uh!
Watcha you think we're doing?


For the record: our governments try to stop you not because of the kindness of their hearts but because of interests.

The people of those countries though, and also of those whose govs are pro-war, are anti-war.

[Bereta_Eder]

And there's no question of starting an embargo against the US.

You serve our interests good. That's the hypocricy of the whole thing, see.