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  • #16
    Originally posted by CerberusIV
    He didn't mention NK. Does that mean they are going to help?
    No, and he doesn't have to. If you had been paying attention in class you'd realize that North Korea, Iran and Iraq are all allied in an "axis of evil", so of course NK won't rat out its ally. Germany, Cuba and Libya are members of the "axis of evil has-beens", A completely seperate alliance.

    Just kidding.
    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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    • #17
      @ the "v2.0" Good one!

      And I'll readily admit that Bush is a walking gift to European political cartoonists....sheesh...how DID we get so lucky?

      ::shakes head in amazement::

      -=Vel=-
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      • #18
        What's the problem with being compared to Libya and Cuba? There surely are connections! All of these countries do have things the U.S. don't have:
        Cuba has good cigars, Germany has good beer (even if the Belgians don't thinks so), Lybia ... I think, they've got oil. Oh, oh, pray that G.W.B.jr. doesn't know this!

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        • #19
          "One doesn't always have to like the American rhetoric," Wolfgang Schaeuble, a lawmaker and former leader of the main opposition Christian Democrats, said on MDR radio. "But the fact is that, unfortunately, that is how we are behaving."
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #20
            "One doesn't always have to like the American rhetoric," Wolfgang Schaeuble, a lawmaker and former leader of the main opposition Christian Democrats, said on MDR radio. "But the fact is that, unfortunately, that is how we are behaving."
            http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77844,00.html
            Yep...

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            • #21
              Well, it's a FOX link, but....I agree with the guy, actually.

              -=Vel=-

              PS: Interesting that a EU parliamentarian was urging Dubya to fire Rumsfeld too...lol
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tuomerehu
                Yep...
                Is that not how you spell his name? I just thought the quote was an amusing reaction to the Rumsfeld flap.

                If I were Powell, I'd probably b*tch slap him.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #23
                  For more of the wit and wisdom of Donnie, try:

                  The Sunday morning news magazine programme. Presented by Paddy O'Connell.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    "One doesn't always have to like the American rhetoric," Wolfgang Schaeuble, a lawmaker and former leader of the main opposition Christian Democrats, said on MDR radio. "But the fact is that, unfortunately, that is how we are behaving."
                    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77844,00.html
                    Well, Schäuble is a rightwinger and in opposition right now. So does it surprise anyone, that he tries to gain political benefits out of Schröders moronic behavior? Schröders whole problem is his "Unlimited support" promise after Sept 11th. He got a lot of trouble for the "unlimited" part and his popularity sank very fast. He won the 2002 elections with the promise "not to participate in a war against Iraq in any way". That was a blunder, he should have said "we won't participate militarily", while we offer our help in political pressure against Saddam and may be in cleaning up and peacekeeping, as we always do. The US don't need our military help anyway. The German army is, like most of the other European armies, build as a pure defensive force and thus unable to project its power. Plus, due to the results of WWII, Germany was restricted to build offensive forces like carriers and long range bombers. I don't know, if these restrictions were lifted in the 90s, when the German occupation officially ended. But any military effort of the government would be extremely unpopular. The WWII allies put an enormous effort to reeducate the German population after the war. So if we seem to be pacifist pussies now, we're terribly sorry, but...........

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                    • #25
                      Rummy has a way of being out in front of issues. Like his "old world" quote, this one might ring true in a couple of weeks. We'll see what the mood is like in Germany after France offers troops.

                      while we offer our help in political pressure against Saddam and may be in cleaning up and peacekeeping, as we always do

                      Yes, but Germany's (and France's) actions took off the pressure just when the pressure was needed. And that rightly pisses everyone off. I don't think Schroeder's actions served the cause of peace.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        No, and he doesn't have to. If you had been paying attention in class you'd realize that North Korea, Iran and Iraq are all allied in an "axis of evil", so of course NK won't rat out its ally. Germany, Cuba and Libya are members of the "axis of evil has-beens", A completely seperate alliance.
                        But Germany is already in the Axis of Weasels. They can't be in two Axes!
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ramo
                          They can't be in two Axes!
                          Yes they can. Germans are just that good.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            "One doesn't always have to like the American rhetoric," Wolfgang Schaeuble, a lawmaker and former leader of the main opposition Christian Democrats, said on MDR radio. "But the fact is that, unfortunately, that is how we are behaving."
                            http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77844,00.html
                            No problem whith criticism of Schröder´s position, but Rumsfeld´s statements won´t help here. After the stupid Hitler remark from our former minister of justice and Rumsies "Old Europe" nonsense I thought it can´t get worse, but...
                            Blah

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                            • #29
                              Germany, Cuba and Libya are members of the "axis of evil has-beens",
                              the US don't consider Cuba and Libya evil anymore?

                              good.
                              CSPA

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                                Plus, due to the results of WWII, Germany was restricted to build offensive forces like carriers and long range bombers.
                                Really? I didn´t know it was a real restriction (like those from the Versailles treaty after WWI) I thought it is more a kind of self-limitation?
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