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Originally posted by TheStinger
I thought this was every countires responsibility a bit like the Geneva convention
I thought this was every countires responsibility a bit like the Geneva convention
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Actually I'm not sure that the US signed the Geneva Convention.
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Well you can't have Gods chosen people being told to treat POW's properly.Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Actually I'm not sure that the US signed the Geneva Convention.
Where will it end, will be telling you not to execute children nextSpace is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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Mexican President Vicente Fox (news - web sites) angrily canceled a planned meeting with President Bush (news - web sites) in Texas last year after the state ignored Mexican pleas for clemency for Javier Medina.
Where we that petty when they were stealing water from us (something of far more import)?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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What you people need to realize is that the US is not the same as Texas. Texas is a state in the US, sure, but in terms of crime and punishment, the US can't do a lot about what Texas does, provided Texas isn't violating the Constitution. And I still fail to see how this violates the Constitution.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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So you are saying when the US signs a treaty it isn't binding on the States themselves.Originally posted by David Floyd
What you people need to realize is that the US is not the same as Texas. Texas is a state in the US, sure, but in terms of crime and punishment, the US can't do a lot about what Texas does, provided Texas isn't violating the Constitution. And I still fail to see how this violates the Constitution.
The argument here is that the defendants as foreigners were entitled to consular assistance, this was denied to them.Why is Texas not bound to this treatySpace is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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State's rights.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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I can already feel Mr. Fun running to this thread now.Originally posted by SlowwHand
State's rights.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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International treaties that the US accepts are the laws of the land. That's why Texas' border is at the Rio Grande instead of the Nueces.
Besides, it's simply morally wrong to the extreme for a state to kill someone."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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the last thing i think this thread needs is states rights/civil war/slavery/ argumentOriginally posted by SlowwHand
State's rights.
The US is te soverign body which signs international treaties, unless they are declared unconstitutional surley the States have to abide by themSpace is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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I know.Originally posted by DinoDoc
I can already feel Mr. Fun running to this thread now.
I wrote it because it was true, but I thought the same as I wrote it.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
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The question is, should the US abide by international laws all the time, or only when it is advantagous to do so?
You are asking Floyd, UR... what do you think he'll say
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I would assume that the Federal Government is allowed to sue individual states in order block the the execution of inmates denied thier treaty rights under the Constitution.Originally posted by David Floyd
the US can't do a lot about what Texas does, provided Texas isn't violating the Constitution.
PS Start your own thread Ramo. This thread isn't about how authoritarian or moral the death penalty is.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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The States claim, quite reasonablly IMO, that they are sovereign entities under the Constitution with the absolute right to anyone who breaks state law under state procedures.Originally posted by TheStinger
unless they are declared unconstitutional surley the States have to abide by themI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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I was addressing Floyd. I was under the impression that for him, morality supercedes law."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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So any treaty signed by the US government is in essence worthlessSpace is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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