The War in Iraq Thread (post here)

[Kingof the Apes]

Originally posted by Willem


I wouldn't even know where to begin. And it happened a long, long time ago, pre-Internet. About all I remember was that there was a big international stink about it.

Was this when they assasinated that former Nazi official in Argentina? That was a while ago.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Kingof the Apes

Was this when they assasinated that former Nazi official in Argentina? That was a while ago.

No, it was definitely in Europe. And the reason I remember is that the Israeli agents were using Canadian passports to hide their identities. Needless to say, my government wasn't amused!

[Ned]

Originally posted by Sava
Nah Ned... if any of the so called "Axis" countries even attempted to ally and work together, the US would bomb them into submission faster than you could say "UN Resolution".

What I think we ought to do is charge Axis of Weasel countries outrageous prices for oil so that they wish they had joined the coalition. Imagine their gall, trying to grab our oil concessions out from under us, by being supportive of Saddam.

Let's teach 'em a lesson on reapolitik.

[Sava]

How about we not try to antagonize other countries, mkay? That's why the rest of the world doesn't like the US. Maybe, if we made diplomatic concessions, played the role of the good guy; then the rest of the world would agree with us whole-heartedly and support the idea that these regimes are bad and needs to go. Right now, nobody agrees with Bush because he's in a pissing contest with everybody he doesn't like. But if we stop these shenanigans, then the "Axis" countries will either follow suit, or continue to be bad, in which case the whole world will hate them instead of us.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Sava
How about we not try to antagonize other countries, mkay? That's why the rest of the world doesn't like the US. Maybe, if we made diplomatic concessions, played the role of the good guy; then the rest of the world would agree with us whole-heartedly and support the idea that these regimes are bad and needs to go. Right now, nobody agrees with Bush because he's in a pissing contest with everybody he doesn't like. But if we stop these shenanigans, then the "Axis" countries will either follow suit, or continue to be bad, in which case the whole world will hate them instead of us.

I rather have the oil than the goodwill of Chirac.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Ned


I rather have the oil than the goodwill of Chirac.

That's why no one can trust your country.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Willem


That's why no one can trust your country.

We take care of our coalition partners. That's all you really have to know.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Ned


We take care of our coalition partners. That's all you really have to know.

Sorry, I'm not a big fan of American hegemony. You won't buy my support.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Sava
How about we not try to antagonize other countries, mkay? That's why the rest of the world doesn't like the US. Maybe, if we made diplomatic concessions, played the role of the good guy; then the rest of the world would agree with us whole-heartedly and support the idea that these regimes are bad and needs to go. Right now, nobody agrees with Bush because he's in a pissing contest with everybody he doesn't like. But if we stop these shenanigans, then the "Axis" countries will either follow suit, or continue to be bad, in which case the whole world will hate them instead of us.

so the french and russians were gung ho to take out saddam when Clinton was in office???? When they pulled the plug on Butler and UNSCOM for being too tough, and set up Blix and Unmovic to go easier on Saddam?? When they thought it was no problem when UNMOVIC was forced out of Iraq??

No, this isnt about dubya. DOesnt matter who the american president is, or what his stance on Kyoto is. Its about national interest, and some nations seeing an interest in limiting american power - and its about American power - not american behvior (kinda like in Civ 2 when they dont like you cause youre supreme, does matter what you rep is)

[Sava]

Lotm, your response contained a lot of stuff I didn't even talk about. Kyoto? Clinton?

And you're basing your geopolitical stance on Civ2?

[Ned]

Originally posted by Willem


Sorry, I'm not a big fan of American hegemony. You won't buy my support.

I think there are consequences for being on the other side.

[Sava]

Yup Ned, that's the American way. Either you agree with us, or we bomb the sh!t out of you.

[SlowwHand]

If Colin Powell is saying go, I say go.
He's saying so, even as we "speak".

Adios, Saddam.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Ned


I think there are consequences for being on the other side.

Idle threats from a little man. Are you personally going to lead the US military on an invasion of Canada? Get real! Better yet get counselling, you're obviously suffering from illusions of grandeur.

[Sava]

Adios Saddam? And you think this because we did such a good job finding OBL?