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I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.
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stalin certainly killed a bunch of people, but he also gave them guns and ammo
and he positioned NKVD with machine guns behind their backs.. just in case their love of Rodina was not enough. At least according to that movie 'Enemy at the Gates' I saw recently, I m not a wwII expert..
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900-DAY SIEGE OF LENINGRAD (BLOKADA)
Despite hunger and cold they did not surrender
"The Road of Life" - the vital link with the mainland
City's art treasures during the Siege
The Piskariovskoye Cemetery - a place for silent mourning
This was certainly the most tragic period in the history of this city. It was full of suffering and heroism. For everyone who lives in St. Petersburg the Blokada (the Siege) of Leningrad is an important part of their heritage and for the older generations it brings the memories that they will never forget.
Less than two and a half months after June 22, 1941, when the Soviet Union was attacked by Nazi Germany, German troops were already approaching Leningrad. The Red Army was outflanked and on September 8, 1941 the Germans had fully encircled Leningrad and the siege began. It lasted for about 900 days, from September 8, 1941 till January 27, 1944. Two million 887 thousand civilians (including about 400 thousand children) plus troops didn't even consider any calls for surrender. Food and fuel stocks were very limited (1-2 months only). All the public transport stopped. By the winter of 1941-42 there was no heating, no water supply, almost no electricity and very little food. In January 1942, in the depths of an unusually cold winter, the lowest food rations in the city were only 125 grams (about 1/4 of a pound) of bread per day. In just two months, January and February, 1942, 200 thousand people (!!!) died in Leningrad of cold and starvation. But some of the war industry still worked and the city did not surrender.
Several hundred thousand people were evacuated from the city across Lake Ladoga via the famous "Road of Life" ("Doroga Zhizni") - the only route that connected the besieged city with the mainland. During the warm season people were ferried to the mainland, and in winter - carried by trucks that drove across the frozen lake under constant enemy bombardment.
Meanwhile, the city lived on. The treasures of the Hermitage and the suburban palaces of Petrodvorets, Pushkin, etc. were hidden in the basements of the Hermitage and St Isaac's Cathedral. Most students continued their studies and even passed finals. Dmitry Shostakovich wrote his Seventh "Leningrad" Symphony and it was performed in the besieged city.
In January 1943 the Siege was broken and a year later, on January 27, 1944 it was fully lifted. At least 641 thousand people had died in Leningrad during the Siege (some estimates put this figure at 800 thousand). Most of them were buried in mass graves in different cemeteries. The Piskariovskoye Memorial Cemetery, where almost 500 thousand people are buried, became one of the most impressive national war memorials.
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I would have chosen this as a more important battle in Russia's Plight. Just an opinion is all.
This anniversary also just passed, January 27th
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Originally posted by VetLegion
and he positioned NKVD with machine guns behind their backs.. just in case their love of Rodina was not enough.
At least according to that movie 'Enemy at the Gates' I saw recently, I m not a wwII expert..
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I actually liked enemy at the gates... it had a much better plot than saving private ryan.
If you all want to read an awsome book on the battle, read Antony Beevor's STALINGRAD: THE FATEFUL SIEGE. It is the best book on a single battle I have ever read.
As I said earlier, I think it is up to the Russians to decide if they are willing to forget a name, when I hear the word Stalingrad I do not think of the man, I think of the battle, and its for that reason that if I were Russian I would probably agree (if my familiy had been killed by Stalin I probably wouldn't)A true ally stabs you in the front.
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Actually, I think that successive Republican regimes have pretty much wiped FDR's name off of the face of the (American) map. AFAIK all he ever got his name on was an office buiilding, and I think that it has been torn down and rteplaced with something named after someone else. There were of course literally thousands of schools built by the WPA, and adorned by corner stones bearing the WPA logo,but after more than 60 years few of them remain standing. I went to two of such schools. One was recently torn down, the other has been remodeled in such a manner as to obliterate the original corner stone.
We should remember the enormous ordeal born by the Russian people during WW2 though."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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Originally posted by raguil_79
I actually liked enemy at the gates... it had a much better plot than saving private ryan.
If you all want to read an awsome book on the battle, read Antony Beevor's STALINGRAD: THE FATEFUL SIEGE. It is the best book on a single battle I have ever read.
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EDIT: Bad version of the Soviet flag. Anyone got a better one?Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
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Originally posted by raguil_79
As I said earlier, I think it is up to the Russians to decide if they are willing to forget a name, when I hear the word Stalingrad I do not think of the man, I think of the battle, and its for that reason that if I were Russian I would probably agree (if my familiy had been killed by Stalin I probably wouldn't)
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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
EDIT: Bad version of the Soviet flag. Anyone got a better one?"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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